canadian 914/6, what you guys think about it? great?? Options

[physician]

i'm new to your forum, but i've always like that 914 and you guys here are as hardcore as i am. i'm from the honda camp and i want to buy a 914 for it's handling and finesse( at least for a 30 years old car)

i'm from a town near Montreal, quebec(i'm french so sorry if my english is'nt that great). 914 are hard to find here, but one have been keeping me from sleeping for a few nights. i want to know what you guys think about it. i want your opinion untill i go see it in the week end.

here's the text from the add.

Porsche 914/6 2.7S conversion. Up for sale is a 1974 Porsche 914/6 2.7S conversion. Currently the engine is partly resseambled, leaving cam tower to be mounted on the block. New seals, gaskets, bearings, etc. The car is mecanically sound but needs some bodywork. It has glass GT flares. No structural rust but some minor surface. Please email for further details. Car is in Montreal. Price 8000CAN$

and a pics:
(IMG:http://www.rennsport.ca/E_membership/adsinfo/farley_914_1.jpg)

anyone know about it? he is asking 8k? cdn, about 6-6.5k$ us

is it that hard to finish up the engine, asuming he have the rest of the parts?? i have rebuild some engine but no porsche....

[Bleyseng]

A big welcome to the BBS.

The BIG question is how is it for rust. That is what determines the price on ANY 914 car. Check out all the typical areas, under the battery, hell hole, under the rocker covers (take them off), trunks. Look for crappy repairs to the rust prone areas like bad welding, fiberglass, or bondo. This is where the money goes to repair a car.

Engine work- a 911 motor is a 8 on a scale of 10 to rebuild so unless you have good skills figure on a mechanic spending 2-3k to finish the engine atleast. Or buy a good used 3.2 motor complete and install that! You'll be way ahead of the curve doing that.

A conversion car that doens't have a running motor is a project car which usually is cheap as it cost money to finish. Hell thats why its not done and running.
I wouldn't pay $6500 US for a non running 914/6 conversion when there are running ones out there for $8000 now and then that need some TLC.
I nice conversion is worth maybe $10-12 K, so subtract all it will take to finish this car by a mechanic and yourself. That is what gives you a base price IMHO. Porsche parts are expensive even wholesale.

Painting is another big cost with complete paint job running atleast $2500-5000.

Geoff

[vortrex]

I would say it is high for a car that has some surface (more too!) rust and where the motor is not together.

montreal was home to the nicest 914-6 I have ever seen.

[Bleyseng]

Brad sold a real 914/6 for $8500 last year with a great running 2.0L six. It did need an interior and paint touch up. Same color as this one.

Geoff

[physician]

so if i understand correctly, it's not a deal. i will go see it by the week end. i'll see if the owner want to lower the price, otherwise, i'll wait another occasion.
better not buy a car i'm not 100% confident about that spending money fixing it......

by the way, i really like those wheels on 914...

[physician]

I would say it is high for a car that has some surface (more too!) rust and where the motor is not together.

montreal was home to the nicest 914-6 I have ever seen.

really?? have some pics?? i honestly see 1 or 2 914 a year here.... but a lot of 911 and 944..

[Qarl]

From what I understand.. the car has been painted with rattle can spray paint.

Also, the flares were hacked together.

I know something about this car from reading about it on one of the other internet sites.

The owner (Farleydude is his forum name) is VERY creative and resourceful. So, just keep that in mind. I think he likes to try and figure out how to make something, vs. what many would considered to be the "correct" way of doing something. But I have to give the guy credit, he is very handy.

Good luck!

[physician]

really?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) damn i like internet...

914 6 -- 6k
computer, 350$( mine at least)

being told that the car you want to buy hold together with tie wraps by a guy in 40 hour drive, priceless! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

but seriously, i'll go see it by myself but i'll look carefully...

[physician]

thanks for your help guys

[Bleyseng]

oh, ok I know that car. I am not saying anything more.

call or email Brad at Brad@HighPreformanceHouse for info on sixes.


Geoff

[tracks914]

I LOVE those rims on that car. I wonder what they are?

To be safe, bring a digital camera and take lots of pictures, of the car and the engine and ALL of the engine parts.
Post the pix on this site and you will get the best possible evaluation of the car money can buy!
Something like a missing exhaust system could cost you 2K CAN to get into the country and installed properly. Parts in Canada aren't as easy to find as in Southern California. You will have to pay dearly for most everything you bring across the border.
6 Cylinder parts(bearings, gaskets, oil pump etc) are 4 times the price of 4 cylinder parts. 4's are still fun to drive. (I am told))
Welcome to the site, sit down, read on and learn more about 914's here than most anywhere in the world! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif)

[Qarl]

http://www.farleydw.com/914.html

Here you can read all about the car.

Click on NOW

And the play around with the photo buttons on top

He is very resourceful.

[Mark Henry]

Bonjour

If you need the engine put together I can do it.... If you need resto, bodywork, paint, mechanical, etc. my buddy Mike can do it. Mike is the 914 specialist, I'm the engine guy. We both have are own businesses, but we do work together. Mike owns an original /6 plus a creamsicle LE and I have a 74 /4.

We are both highly experienced and about 3 hrs south of Montreal near Port Hope/ Colbourg, Ontario.

All that has been said by the other guys is true, but remember they are talking US dollars. In Canada you would be hard pressed to do (or find) a nice completed /6 for under $15,000 to 20,000 Canadian, so I already wonder about that 914's condition. What is the year of the car? All /6’s in Canada are imported or conversions.

When you do the inspection have him remove the rocker panels and inspect the longs. These are the reinforcement rails front to back under the doors. Bring a heavy set (i.e. fat) friend along and have him sit in the seat and see if the doors close proper. Make sure the door gaps line up. Lift the carpets and look for rust and/or repairs. The hellhole is just in front of the battery tray. Does it have a battery tray? The battery is supposed to be in the engine compartment on the passenger side.
Ask how the engine is mounted, Is it a quick six, OEM, Johnson?
Suspension, brakes, struts/shocks, sway bars?
Too many questions to list.

We also might be able to find you a nice /4 or /6.
PM me for the details.
Mark

[GWN7]

Hello and welcome,

If you are going to look at the car do as was mentioned. Take lots of pictures. Then post them here. Areas of consern are under the battery near the lower part of body. This is called the "Hell hole" because of the design of the body it rusts very easy there. Also the "Longs", the frame support area under the rocker covers along the side of the car. Look under the carpet near the area behind the seats for rust and in the rear trunk near the taillight lenses. Take a large friend with you to do the big butt test for sag in the body. Both of you get in the car and shut the doors. If they shut smoothly without jamming it passes. Check the jack points under the car. Take a small screwdriver with you to poke under the longs.

Call your local Porsche dealer or import shop and ask them how much for them to compleat putting the motor together.

914's are rare in Canada. They weren't imported here till 1972 and because of the salt used on our streets they rust very easy.

[Mark Henry]

Thanks Karl for the link

buyer beware (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

Go take a look at it, but then keep looking...looks like a money pit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[physician]

i have my 914 914/6 by brian long and have read it like 6 times. i have search the net for some times.

i'll take picsi'll try to see it in the week end, but i have another car to search for the shop i'm working for. a civic or crx for drag race (target low 13 to high 12 N/A)but that's another story......


MARK HENRY: so if there is not that much rust on the frame/structure and the conversion is greatly done what should the car price be? just to have an idea.


those wheels are from 993 porsche if i'm right.

i'm also wondering about the 5 lug conversion... i'll go see it in the week end. just want to think about all those questions to clear up.

[physician]

i'll have to go see a 72 black 1.7 with apearance package for 5k$ cdn... not powerfull but matbe a great buy.... a busy week end!

[vortrex]

I would say it is high for a car that has some surface (more too!) rust and where the motor is not together.

montreal was home to the nicest 914-6 I have ever seen.

really?? have some pics?? i honestly see 1 or 2 914 a year here.... but a lot of 911 and 944..

I don't have the pics anymore, but the new owner is from MI and on the bbs too. it's a signal orange 2.7RS 914-6. amazing.

[vortrex]

I LOVE those rims on that car. I wonder what they are?

those are 17" cup wheels, were out in the '95 year (993 and 928 too I believe).

[Mark Henry]

if there is not that much rust on the frame/structure and the conversion is greatly done what should the car price be? just to have an idea.

Mike would know prices better than me, but it would have to be a real nice basket case for that price. I'm an old aircooled VW guy that lucked into my nice 914.

i have my 914 914/6 by brian long and have read it like 6 times. i have search the net for some times.

Take your time on this one, find the best 914 you can afford. If the black 1.7 is real nice it might be a better choice for a /6 conversion. 914/4's are cool too just look for all the same problems.

i'm also wondering about the 5 lug conversion... i'll go see it in the week end. just want to think about all those questions to clear up.

Mike can do that for you. As with anything Porsche you can find deals, but a lot of parts and labour tends get to get expensive.

those wheels are from 993 porsche if i'm right.

They are cool, but don't let them cloud your better judgement. Look at the car as a whole.

I got my 914 for $4500, (should say I stole it) Mike offered me $7500 for it right away and it's appraised at $11000. Canadian. I still had to put more than $2k into it to make it what it is now and it will take a lot more money to make what I want it to be. I would not sell my /4 for less than 8K, but it's not for sale. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)