Tech Tip of the Night, keep them leaves out |
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Tech Tip of the Night, keep them leaves out |
realred914 |
Apr 8 2010, 12:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
many VW buses with type IVs have a plastic fan guard on the inlet for the engine fan, the 914 fan house will accept this screen. This will help prevent leaves, rags, bits ot tape and other engine bay junk from getting sucked into your cooling system.
this is good insurance for an optimal cooling system operation. it is amazing how much junk collects on the heads and cylinder fins under the tin, all sucked in by the uncovered 914 fan. see your local wrecking yard for the screen. why they was left off the 914 I dont know, a cost cutting measure I assume? |
type47 |
Apr 8 2010, 03:35 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
021.119.207
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BiG bOgGs |
Apr 8 2010, 05:00 AM
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The Bogus One Group: Members Posts: 452 Joined: 25-September 04 From: Ft. Myers, FL 33967 Member No.: 2,829 Region Association: South East States |
Here are before and after pics of my engine I took the first time I removed the engine tins.
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johannes |
Apr 8 2010, 05:18 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
WOW !!! Very impressive...
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69telecaster |
Apr 8 2010, 05:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 4-April 10 From: White Cloud, MI Member No.: 11,558 Region Association: None |
021.119.207 I can't dispute the value of the fan guard in light of the before-and-after photos, especially the oil cooler...yikes. But aren't the holes in the guard bigger than the holes in the engine compartment lid mesh? How did all those leaves get into the engine compartment anyway? Makes me want to pull tins! cm |
ConeDodger |
Apr 8 2010, 09:36 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
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Katmanken |
Apr 8 2010, 09:52 AM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Leaves jammed in engine, leaves stuck on screen. Both lead to overheating.
In any event, clean yer leaves out of the engine compartment, I didn't have leaves under the engine tin, but it looked like a haloween witch wig got run through the fan. Screen good for stopping haloween witch wigs? |
SLITS |
Apr 8 2010, 10:35 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Debris got in 'cause Porsche Air Cooled engines suck .....................
air. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
tradisrad |
Apr 8 2010, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I've had a screen on my engine for the past 12 years. Dave gave me this tip way back then.
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dangrouche |
Apr 8 2010, 10:54 AM
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dangrouche Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 1-May 04 From: San Francisco Bay Area Member No.: 2,012 Region Association: None |
The Bus Depot.com sells them for $19.95 which is where i got mine, you will need three short 10mm screws of course.
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realred914 |
Apr 8 2010, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
021.119.207 I can't dispute the value of the fan guard in light of the before-and-after photos, especially the oil cooler...yikes. But aren't the holes in the guard bigger than the holes in the engine compartment lid mesh? How did all those leaves get into the engine compartment anyway? Makes me want to pull tins! cm leaves turn side ways and get in between the lids edges and body. park under a tree for long and you will find they get in. although you should pull the tin to assure you have no blockages, you can get an idea of how dirty your cylinders/head is by puling spark plugs and with light and small extenion mirror, look inside the tins spark holes. you can also probe with a stiff wire beyond the areas that you can see. |
Root_Werks |
Apr 8 2010, 11:14 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Tree needles are another big one. Those little suckers seem to get everywhere!
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anderssj |
Nov 13 2021, 10:34 AM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Got one of these guards on sale at Cip1.com.
Anyone know what size screws are used to hold the fan guard in place? |
FlacaProductions |
Nov 13 2021, 12:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,588 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
three 6mm bolts, three washers would be nice, and a 10mm socket
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anderssj |
Nov 13 2021, 12:53 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
three 6mm bolts, three washers would be nice, and a 10mm socket Thanks for the quick reply. I tried a few different new 6mmx1.0 hex screws with a captive washers in each of the three holes, but none would go.... I'll try to find a M6 "fine pitch" (6mmx0.75?) screw and see if that works. Maybe the early 2.0L fan housings had the mounting bosses, but they weren't tapped as those weren't yet used in busses or other Type IVs? Thanks again! |
StarBear |
Nov 13 2021, 02:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
And those maple seeds! Pulled several out yesterday. Even when garage- kept. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Olympic 914 |
Nov 13 2021, 02:37 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,670 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
And those maple seeds! Pulled several out yesterday. Even when garage- kept. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) They get everywhere, AND don't park near any Walnut trees this time of year. Need a hard hat just to walk under them. |
iankarr |
Nov 13 2021, 03:07 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,473 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Holy thread ressurrection Batman!
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wonkipop |
Nov 13 2021, 04:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,299 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
screens were only on buses.
411/412 had a boot to body work ducting. for both you have to take the screen/boot off to fit alternator belt? easy to do- looking at the whole sh$t show. suspect they left it off 914 because the deal is a feel with your fingers job? though it would have been a good way for porsche dealer to screw a few more dollars on the service. seem to remember it was a standard replacement item to do the fan belt on my type 3 at every service whatever condition it was in. probably same for 914s. i suppose they were hoping the engine lid did a good enough job! not that it does. |
rgalla9146 |
Nov 13 2021, 05:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,554 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
They were on busses because the Cuisinart was right there to blend your fingers. A 914 owner has to be very determined to injure himself. |
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