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75 green car, fuel filter in engine bay |
Tom |
Apr 12 2010, 05:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
I was looking at some pics McMark posted and noticed what looks like a fuel filter in the engine bay just before the fuel rail. Did new cars have this filter there? Anyone else do this and is it a good idea? If the heat isn't a factor, it would seem to be easier to change the second fuel filter there.
Tom Pics here http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=105807 11 th pic. |
Katmanken |
Apr 12 2010, 05:51 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That might be the fuel pressure regulator being mistaken for a filter. It's about the right location.
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Tom |
Apr 13 2010, 11:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
Pressure regulator is on the drivers side , this one is on the pass side. It is a fuel filter.
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Root_Werks |
Apr 13 2010, 11:14 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,315 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Not suppose to be there of course. All stock 914's had filters under the engine. Even after the 75-76' moved the pump to the front.
Might be something someone added or moved becuase it is easier to access? I would think heat would be a factor and you would want the filter as low as possible so no chance air gets trapped in it. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 13 2010, 11:19 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Not suppose to be there of course. All stock 914's had filters under the engine. Even after the 75-76' moved the pump to the front. Might be something someone added or moved because it is easier to access? I would think heat would be a factor and you would want the filter as low as possible so no chance air gets trapped in it. Not exactly. ALL 914/4s had a fuel filter BEFORE the pump. 1970-1974 had it below the battery under the engine. '75-'76 had it between the tank and the pump, behind the little "door" in the rear bulkhead of the front trunk. IN NO CASE should a filter be placed AFTER the pump, especially if it's a plastic one. The Cap'n |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 13 2010, 11:22 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Not suppose to be there of course. All stock 914's had filters under the engine. Even after the 75-76' moved the pump to the front. Might be something someone added or moved because it is easier to access? I would think heat would be a factor and you would want the filter as low as possible so no chance air gets trapped in it. Not exactly. ALL 914/4s had a fuel filter BEFORE the pump. 1970-1974 had it below the battery under the engine. '75-'76 had it between the tank and the pump, behind the little "door" in the rear bulkhead of the front trunk. IN NO CASE should a filter be placed AFTER the pump, especially if it's a plastic one. The Cap'n Yep. They aren't meant to handle the pressure. |
Root_Werks |
Apr 13 2010, 11:33 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,315 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Not suppose to be there of course. All stock 914's had filters under the engine. Even after the 75-76' moved the pump to the front. Might be something someone added or moved because it is easier to access? I would think heat would be a factor and you would want the filter as low as possible so no chance air gets trapped in it. Not exactly. ALL 914/4s had a fuel filter BEFORE the pump. 1970-1974 had it below the battery under the engine. '75-'76 had it between the tank and the pump, behind the little "door" in the rear bulkhead of the front trunk. IN NO CASE should a filter be placed AFTER the pump, especially if it's a plastic one. The Cap'n Yep. They aren't meant to handle the pressure. Yup! I totally forgot about the 75-76' moving up front before the pump. |
Tom |
Apr 13 2010, 11:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
In that case, this seems to be waiting for a fire! Anyone know this person to warn them?
Tom |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 13 2010, 11:54 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Are you talking about this pic? I don't think that is a fuel filter. I believe thats part of the 75/76 smog control.
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tradisrad |
Apr 13 2010, 11:59 AM
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decel valve. as early as '73
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Root_Werks |
Apr 13 2010, 12:21 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,315 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think Tom was talking about this.....bad place for it.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 13 2010, 12:22 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Dead center on the right edge ............... Plastic fuel filter. Bad news .......
The Cap'n |
SirAndy |
Apr 13 2010, 12:29 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Dead center on the right edge ............... Plastic fuel filter. Bad news ....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Attached image(s) |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 13 2010, 12:35 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Wel shoot! I totally missed that. Good eye guys!
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Katmanken |
Apr 13 2010, 12:53 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There are fuel filters designed to run on the high pressure side.
The VW Vanagon runs one and it's a huge metal can about the size of an old 1 qt. oil can. Run, don't walk to the store for a piece of high pressure fuel line to replace that plastic filter, and move the plastic filter to a place BEFORE the pump.. |
Sleepin |
Apr 13 2010, 01:39 PM
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Root_Werks |
Apr 13 2010, 01:40 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,315 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yup, I haven't ever seen (Not that they don't exist) a plastic filter on anything above 12psig before. Any high pressure filter I've seen has always been metal.
But then, I haven't seen a lot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 13 2010, 01:42 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I think they had plastics ones from the factory. I know my 73 1.7 did.
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SirAndy |
Apr 13 2010, 01:46 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I think they had plastics ones from the factory. I know my 73 1.7 did. But not on the pressure side of things. That's what he's referring to ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
Bleyseng |
Apr 13 2010, 01:46 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
yes, all 914's had a fuel filter placed BEFORE the fuel pump.....
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