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Trekkor
post Apr 5 2004, 10:31 PM
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I want to replace the stock front valance with an air dam. I have had very good results in the past with the Flex Dam and the front end lowered all the way down. I ordered one from AA over a month ago and it's on
" permo- back-o ". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

I would like an air dam that makes a differance.

Whatta ya got?
Do you know of a street/racing air dam that gets it done? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

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post Apr 5 2004, 10:51 PM
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Here's the '75 I enjoyed so much.

The lowest edge of the dam is at the same height as the lowest point of the rim of the wheel.

Could't clear a school lunch milk carton! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Help me get happy.

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post Apr 5 2004, 11:38 PM
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Nobody can get those right now. I dont quite understand why, but for some reason the mould owner is NOT cranking them out. I have had several requests for that particular air dam.


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post Apr 6 2004, 12:21 AM
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I ordered a different one weeks ago, the "ultimate" spoiler or some crap like that (the really deep one with the brake ducts and splitter lip) and same deal...indefinite backorder, at least 2-3 weeks but we're going on 4 already.

What's up with the suppliers?

[warning, mini rant follows]

Since we got on this topic (LOL) I should mention that a bunch of sellers carry this particular part. I checked Performance first since they are local and I could potentially save a bunch on shipping since it's oversize. They told me it was backordered for at least a few weeks and I could either order it, or just check back later. OK, so I went to the "other" PP. They said, "this part usually ships in 1-2 days". So I bit the hook and pumped in the Visa number. THEN a day or two later I get the email saying that the part is actually backordered. Haven't heard a peep since then.

I guess "usually" is the operative word i.e. the disclaimer recommended by the lawyers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I have complained to Wayne about this issue in the past but same old, same old. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Am I just spoiled by all the various vendors I deal with who get me my stuff in 2-3 days??? Or maybe it is partly due to the fact that I provide software (in other industries) that provides up-to-the-second visibility over inventory / pricing / status etc.? The technology to track the "supply chain" in near-real-time, and even push backorders or "wants" up the chain, has been around for years...maybe it will trickle down to lowly 914 owners in a few more?

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post Apr 6 2004, 12:27 AM
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Not gonna happen. I have yet to run across a 30 year old Porsche parts place that has a inventory control system in place. Tweeks (when it was Tweeks) *might* have had something.

I'm dealing with this issue RIGHT now. How do you inventory 48k sq ft of 30 year old "shit" ? I'm talking stuff on shelves to the ceiling.

I want better inventory control.. I have NO idea what we have until I or somebody else goes looking for it. Not fun.


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post Apr 6 2004, 12:28 AM
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Hey Chris,

The spoiler I think you are referring to in the Performance Products catalogue with the air ducts and splitter is actually built by Roger Sheridan. I picked 2 up from him. I actually bought 2 from him, 1 new and 1 with a blem....for 1/2 price...

He'll sell direct if you ask him and he's in Paso Robles....and he's a fountain of info on the phone...I've had several conversations with him and I just talked to him about buying his roof skin... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway...you may want to give him a call...(805) 226-0700.

Hopefully the info will help.

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post Apr 6 2004, 12:41 AM
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Bill, thanks for the tip! Yes it would be great if I could get it right from the source.

BTW I have a roof skin from another supplier and should point out that mounting is left completely up to the imagination (I assume this is the case w/ Roger's version as well.) A tad of fab skills with dzus fasteners or whatnot is required -- just like most "race" f/g parts it's not a plug 'n play situation. But it clearly drops several pounds off the upper extremity of the car.
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post Apr 6 2004, 07:07 AM
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Ok... had to chime in here...

This is the "ultimate air dam" from Pelican parts. Some will swear it does nothing..... HOWEVER, I notice a considerable difference in how the front end tracks on the road, particularly on the highway.

BTW... Pelican had it to me in under 2 weeks.... but that was several months ago.

Call it a snowplow if you like... But I love it--LOL

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post Apr 6 2004, 07:49 AM
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Check and see if GT racing or AIR have something like what you ar looking for. They could crank it out if you need it. There is another company that does some good Porsche glass work but I can't remember the name. They do airdams, flares, and some sort of cooling fan shroud system.
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post Apr 6 2004, 08:03 AM
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Call it a snowplow if you like... But I love it--LOL



snowplow snowplow snowplow snowplow there I said it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 6 2004, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(itsa914 @ Apr 6 2004, 06:03 AM)

snowplow snowplow snowplow snowplow there I said it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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And most importantly.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stones.gif) my (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

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post Apr 6 2004, 09:06 AM
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Wow, someone had the guts to paint your snowplow John Deere green. I like it but I'd hate to hit a parking stop with it. Get some kerb feelers for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As for inventory control, it does kinda suck once you've spent some time on Summit or similar webpages. Those guys seem to have it down to a near science. If it's in stock and early enough in the day then it'll ship that day, and they tell you that in the availability column. If it's backordered then they have a projected ship date. This helped me make an informed part decision just this week. Imagine that.

Also, I don't think they drop-ship, it appears the majority if not everything they carry is warehoused in different places around the country. You know, the old way that actually works.

Brad, you need to market HPH as a kid's playplace. Give them a part number and a flashlight and send them into the warehouse. If they come out with the right part they get a cookie.
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post Apr 6 2004, 11:39 AM
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John Deere Green????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Curb feelers are on the list..... right after the purple velvet interior, gold-plating my fuchs, and the little bobble-head Jesus on the dash.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Apr 6 2004, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(jonwatts @ Apr 6 2004, 07:06 AM)
As for inventory control, it does kinda suck once you've spent some time on Summit or similar webpages. Those guys seem to have it down to a near science. If it's in stock and early enough in the day then it'll ship that day, and they tell you that in the availability column. If it's backordered then they have a projected ship date.

I ordered (online) a bunch of plumbing and hardware bits from Jegs a couple weeks ago, on a Friday afternoon IIRC.

A couple hours later I realized that I had ordered the wrong size of one particular part on a page-long order, so I emailed them. They replied right back and said "sorry" (LOL), but the order had already been SHIPPED so I'd have to exchange the part later. Sure enough, I had the complete order in my hands 2-3 days later.
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ninefourteener -- can you tell me if the "splitter" portion of the spoiler extends out beyond the vertical plane of the bumper? Some of the race groups don't allow that (I will keep my current smaller spoiler to swap as needed for that reason.)

My car is way lower too, so I figure the bottom of the spoiler will be no more than 2" off the ground. I will run it in conjunction with a 6" lip on the back lid. Again, I'll have to keep two rear lids cuz the vintage guys don't allow any aero mods.
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post Apr 6 2004, 06:17 PM
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I forgot to tell you what AA said about the Flex Dam
availabilty problem. Apparently the mould owner has died. The company it trying to reorganize right now.

Every one gets them from this company I guess.

The AA guys said if I could find them a new vender, they would give me the part at cost.

They thought it might be a few more weeks-
( schyeah hright ). Also said the flex part will be eliminated with entire profile going to fg.

Ninefourteener- I have no problem with your green Sn*wpl*w (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I will use one as a second option. The flex dam won't break off.

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post Apr 6 2004, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(campbellcj @ Apr 6 2004, 01:00 PM)
ninefourteener -- can you tell me if the "splitter" portion of the spoiler extends out beyond the vertical plane of the bumper? Some of the race groups don't allow that (I will keep my current smaller spoiler to swap as needed for that reason.)

My car is way lower too, so I figure the bottom of the spoiler will be no more than 2" off the ground. I will run it in conjunction with a 6" lip on the back lid. Again, I'll have to keep two rear lids cuz the vintage guys don't allow any aero mods.

To answer your questions, first let me apologize for the crappy cameraphone pics.... its all I have right now.. and its in a poorly lit garage at that.

Top answer your clearance question... yes.. the bumper top comes out about 1 inch further that the forward lip of the spoiler..... the box in the pic was up against the airdam, and the ruler was up against the bumper top...... you've got 1 inch, so you should be safe there...


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To answer your second question.. the airdam sits right at about 5 inches from the ground...... and my car is 100% stock height.

If yours is lowered, you may have clearance probs..


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