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| ConeDodger |
 Jun 14 2010, 11:13 AM
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Apex killer!  Group: Members Posts: 23,615 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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Ever get caught in the rain? I seldom drive my 914 in the rain but I recently discovered that there was a wiper delay option. Not really sure of the years or models it was available on, but our electrical harness gurus Bowlsby and Keyser have volunteered on my request to offer a group buy on the harness. It is a fairly easy hookup and we will be doing the installation as a group at the Dog Days Drive.
The harness normally sells for $65 shipped and if you pick it up at Original Customs at the Dog Days Drive event you get it for $55. Those of you too far away or not going to the Dog Days Drive don't dispair though. The are offering you $60 shipped. This harness requires a relay you will have to source separately and options are available in this regard. I will post a part number for one but others that can delay up to 90 seconds are available. |
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| mharmon |
Jun 14 2010, 11:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 1-November 06 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,133 |
I'm in for 1
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| Root_Werks |
Jun 14 2010, 11:42 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Oh man!
I just bought one like 2 weeks ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) You'll be happy you got one, the quality is top notch and you just don't want to mess with trying to make one. Not worth it. Nice to have every wire properly color coded, length all correct and everything looks factory. |
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| 914Sixer |
Jun 14 2010, 12:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Jeff's harness is nice. You will need the relay. They can be costly and or hard to find. VW# 111.955.531 or Porsche # 477.955.531A. Around $40 at Autohausaz.com
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| Eric_Shea |
Jun 14 2010, 01:31 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Make it simple for me RockDodger... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| underthetire |
Jun 14 2010, 01:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
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Rockdodger, sounds like the Looney tunes character with Daffy duck. |
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| jim_hoyland |
Jun 14 2010, 02:38 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,321 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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I have the harness and stock relay, but want the relay with longer intervals. The stock one is too quick. A part number would be very helpful... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| ConeDodger |
Jun 14 2010, 03:25 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,615 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jun 14 2010, 10:51 AM)  Jeff's harness is nice. You will need the relay. They can be costly and or hard to find. VW# 111.955.531 or Porsche # 477.955.531A. Around $40 at Autohausaz.com These are the correct part numbers for the stock option delay. Someone on my Dog Days Drive thread mentioned another that has 90 second delay. I will ask him to chirp us the part number and source. |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 14 2010, 03:49 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,681 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
All you need is a potentiometer to get variable delays.
Could be as simple as a little knob on the dashboard ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
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| markb |
Jun 14 2010, 03:54 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 14 2010, 02:49 PM) All you need is a potentiometer to get variable delays. Could be as simple as a little knob on the dashboard ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy If you did it this way, couldn't you do it without the relay, and just delay the slow speed? |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 14 2010, 03:58 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,681 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(markb @ Jun 14 2010, 02:54 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 14 2010, 02:49 PM) All you need is a potentiometer to get variable delays. Could be as simple as a little knob on the dashboard ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy If you did it this way, couldn't you do it without the relay, and just delay the slow speed? No. Without the relay, your slow speed would just be really S L O W. You need a relay to make the wipers stop for a certain amount of time. With a relay, the wipers run the same speed every time they come on, you just change the interval of how often they come on. Without a relay, the wipers are always on, you just change the speed of the wipers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
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| markb |
Jun 14 2010, 03:59 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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Ah. That makes sense.
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| Mike Bellis |
Jun 14 2010, 04:45 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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Rob, put me down for one. I could just drive 1 mile to jeff's house but driving around Sonoma and ending in Napa is more fun!
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| McMark |
Jun 14 2010, 10:44 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The 'adjustable' relay info is below... The potentiometer certainly works, but this solution requires no extra wires, holes, or other modifications. And the relay costs about the same as the 'plain' relay. It took me a little bit to understand exactly how this setup works, but once I wrapped my head around it, it makes a lot of sense and should work really well.
QUOTE Variable Intermittent Wiper The following explains how to install a 'programmable' intermittent relay which will give a intermittent time interval from 2 to 45 seconds. The time interval is programmed using the wiper stalk switch. The relay is Bosch P/N 0 986 335 058. It should cost between $30 and $40 from any one of the following: * Automotive Performance Systems (800-423-3623) * Wolf Sport (800-342-8669) * VW or Audi dealers -- VAG P/N 1HM 955 531 A The "A" is the important part, but this part has been superceded, so when you ask for it, they may try to give you a part that ends with "B", "C", etc. The "B" part does work, the "C" does NOT! Operation: 1. Turn the wiper switch to the intermittent position then turn it to off. The wiper will wipe once. 2. When you need the wiper to wipe again, you place the wiper switch to intermittent and leave it there. It will remember the time interval and repeat the wipe at this interval. 3. To change the interval, just turn to off (wiper will wipe) and then turn back to intermittent position to set the new time interval. 4. The relay is reset to a 6 second default interval when ignition is turned off. |
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| ConeDodger |
Jun 14 2010, 11:19 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,615 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Ok, if you want in on this, you need to follow these directions.
Send a paypal for $55.00 or $60.00 depending on if you are going to pick up your harness at the Dog Days Drive Event or want it mailed to your residence. The Paypal address to send it to is jeff.bowlsby@sbcglobal.net If you have a problem with Paypal ie: you don't do Paypal - pm Jeff Bowlsby to get an address to send a check or MO to... In the comment section of the paypal you need to type "Group buy, wiper delay - send to Original Customs" or "Group buy, wiper delay - send to my address" depending on your preference. THIS GROUP BUY ENDS AT MIDNIGHT CALIFORNIA TIME ON JULY 25th. After this date you are still welcome to buy wiper delay harnesses from Jeff Bowlsby but they cannot be included in the Group Buy and will be at the regular price. The purchase of the relay or potentiometer is your responsibility. Thanks for your participation!!! |
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| jim_hoyland |
Jun 15 2010, 07:32 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,321 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Found this in a 2003 thread...Bus Depot shows the variable intermittant relay with a P/N 3B0955531, searching on it produces at least one seller
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| ConeDodger |
Jun 15 2010, 07:58 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,615 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Let's do the group buy bump!!! Who's in? Send your money to Bowlsby and get harnessed!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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| Root_Werks |
Jun 15 2010, 08:57 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 14 2010, 02:58 PM) QUOTE(markb @ Jun 14 2010, 02:54 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 14 2010, 02:49 PM) All you need is a potentiometer to get variable delays. Could be as simple as a little knob on the dashboard ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy If you did it this way, couldn't you do it without the relay, and just delay the slow speed? No. Without the relay, your slow speed would just be really S L O W. You need a relay to make the wipers stop for a certain amount of time. With a relay, the wipers run the same speed every time they come on, you just change the interval of how often they come on. Without a relay, the wipers are always on, you just change the speed of the wipers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy Also, there is a factory part for this variable speed pot. 911's in the 70's used it. It was located up on the gauge cluster. Little black knob. So one could easily install this and it would all be pretty much factory stuff. |
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| jim_hoyland |
Jun 15 2010, 09:56 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,321 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Question: Will the harness have a 5 pin base for the relay or a 6 pin base ? I believe only 6 pin bases allow for the true variable relay funcion to work.
My base is a 5 pin and the intermittant function is fixed to say 2 seconds. It appears full variable intermittant setting require the 6 pin base--correct me if I'm wrong, but I have both relays as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Root_Werks |
Jun 15 2010, 09:58 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Jun 15 2010, 08:56 AM) Question: Will the harness have a 5 pin base for the relay or a 6 pin base ? I believe only 6 pin bases allow for the true variable relay funcion to work. My base is a 5 pin and the intermittant function is fixed to say 2 seconds. It appears full variable intermittant setting require the 6 pin base--correct me if I'm wrong, but I have both relays as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Good question, I also have 5 and a 6 pin relay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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