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| Andyrew |
 Jun 28 2010, 12:45 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait  Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Just passed by what I can only describe as a mobile smog checkpoint! They had a lane blocked off on a semi busy road and had an older buick on a rolling dyno so I am assuming that they were smogging it! There was a police officer on the road as well and I think I saw a tow truck...
What is this state coming to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is in Modesto, Ca on north bound tully road between staniford and prescott. They had tents and water setup and a bunch of people. This will probably be an all day thing. |
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| Drums66 |
Jun 28 2010, 12:51 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jun 28 2010, 11:45 AM)  Just passed by what I can only describe as a mobile smog checkpoint! They had a lane blocked off on a semi busy road and had an older buick on a rolling dyno so I am assuming that they were smogging it! There was a police officer on the road as well and I think I saw a tow truck... What is this state coming to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is in Modesto, Ca on north bound tully road between staniford and prescott. They had tents and water setup and a bunch of people. This will probably be an all day thing. They had those down south here also.......turn around, turn around!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| 70_914 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: 4-December 09 From: Roy, WA Member No.: 11,096 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
On Star technology + Check Engine Light = instant random emissions test failure. It is coming with OBD III. Big brother is talking about turning your car off if you don't get these random emissions test failures fixed once you are contacted. Gotta love technology.
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| bembry |
Jun 28 2010, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
California, über Alles!
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:15 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
Wow! Thats crazy but not as crazy as our (Oregon) Governor wanting to charge us per mile we drive. He claims the gas tax is not making enough money due to cars getting better mileage. Which he is probably correct in that regard but I'd rather pay a higher registration fee than pay by the mile. Last year I payed 106 dollars to register the 73 for two years. Crazy bastards!
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| Andyrew |
Jun 28 2010, 01:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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106 for 2 years of registration? thats cheap!!! The cheapest im paying is $75/year!
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| sww914 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Welcome to the People's Republic of California!
Soon everything will be illegal and we will be subject to selective enforcement. I left the house 3 times this weekend. I saw a State Parks Peace Officer somewhere along each trip. They're considered a law enforcement officer everywhere in the state. Just what we needed, a new kind of cop. We went to the beach yesterday. There are a lot of uncrowded beaches around here because it's cold. We drove past at least a dozen good beaches to get to one where we wouldn't be breaking any laws. Our big subversive plan was to take the dog to the beach and I would be able to smoke. Can't go to most places anymore if you want to do those 2 things. |
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:36 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
fees went up just after I registered last August;
• Two-year registration fee for most vehicles increases from $54 to $86. • One-time title fee increases from $55 to $77. • The cost of plates increases from $5 a pair to $20. A $100 dollar fee for Custom Plates registration. Also due for renewal. (Fee for actual plates are seperate) Oh, Gas tax goes up 6 cents in 2011 from .24cents to .30 cents! |
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| Project 6 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:38 PM
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large member Group: Members Posts: 359 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Utah Member No.: 51 Region Association: None  |
One a da reasons I left.
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 28 2010, 01:50 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
914 Registration in Ok= 24.00 yr. Period. Emisions check=none. Safety inspection= none!
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| turboman808 |
Jun 28 2010, 01:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
Gotta make those budgets balanced somehow.
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| jsayre914 |
Jun 28 2010, 02:11 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
everybody should move to pa, super cheap insurance, tags and registration is lifetime, and is transferred when you sell the vehicle. i have never needed an inspection for my 914 for anything. seems like every saturday there is a antique car show somewhere.
heck, they dont even wear helmets in this state (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) whos comming?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) |
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| pillay2k |
Jun 28 2010, 02:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 21-September 07 From: East Sussex, United Kingdom Member No.: 8,136 Region Association: England |
The grass is always greener... but here in the UK our road tax (yearly registration equivalent) is based on CO2 for new cars.
Anyone here with a car putting out more than 226g/km? that will be about $640/yr thank you!! + fuel is still about $8/gal... booo. but, I guess one good thing is my 914 is tax exempt as it was built in before Jan 1973 else it would cost me $300/yr... ouch. |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 28 2010, 03:35 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jun 28 2010, 11:45 AM) Just passed by what I can only describe as a mobile smog checkpoint! They had a lane blocked off on a semi busy road and had an older buick on a rolling dyno so I am assuming that they were smogging it! There was a police officer on the road as well and I think I saw a tow truck... What is this state coming to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is in Modesto, Ca on north bound tully road between staniford and prescott. They had tents and water setup and a bunch of people. This will probably be an all day thing. I've been saying/warning that this was coming to CA for the past year+ that I've been on here, & warning that the non-stock mods on supposedly exempt pre-75 914's & other cars could get fined, forced to restore to stock smog & retest to the standards in effect in the original applicable model year - at your full cost, or relocate out of state or take it off the road! Everybody thinks that pre-75 exempt was a "free lunch ticket" - but the exemption technically/legally only applies to cars of any make in their stock configuration (except pre-68 non-smog ruled vehicles)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Nobody believed me - welcome to the real world! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) How in the world they'll be able to identify what was stock on our 914's is beyond me, when the DMV gets stymied by our early "short VINs" all the time, but I'm sure that they'll figure it out. So if you have a 914 shop close which still has the standards for your 914's MY applicable smog test, then you may want to take your 2056, 1910, etc., carbed, megasquirt, etc. & see that you can tune it to pass when you get hit by one of these mobile checks (or at least temporarily for the retest, if it won't run right as such). I'm sure that they'll be stories of folks talking their way out of a test, but don't count on that working every time nor forever. DMV, smog & ticket fines are now a huge revenue source for both the state & cities/counties - so plan on huge fines with big BS fees piled on top of that! ... just ask anyone who' had a ticket in the past 1-2 years, & at your latest DMV being more than 2x before!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) PS - they were also planning on adding roadside sniff-testers to ID & pull over violating vehicles, so when those are out in service, you won't be able to just turn around, cuz by the time you see the mobile unit, you're past the "sniffer" vehicle! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Jun 28 2010, 05:47 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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It could happen, but the collector car lobby has been pretty influential in CA to date. The 'smog exemption' status in CA as I understand it is exemption from testing, not from compliance. Compliance meaning all original equipment intact and certain prescribed emmission levels.
Here is a reference for the emissions provisions from the factory at the time of mfr. that I have assembled. They are pretty tame requirements actually, for 914s through 1974. 1975-76 914s became more stringent. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Emissions.htm |
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| Mike Bellis |
Jun 28 2010, 06:35 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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I wonder how us V8 conversion cars would do? I have EFI but no CATS. I've been thinking of installing them to clean up the exhaust. Maybe I should. I live near the big city and don't expect to see one of those smog stops around here... but you never know...
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| Krieger |
Jun 28 2010, 06:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,712 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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I think it's almost time to equip my car with one .50 caliber machine gun, or one propane gun that will shoot out a 6" flame and sound like a real .50 cal. The Corsair I used to work on had a set of these.
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| zymurgist |
Jun 28 2010, 06:57 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Jun 28 2010, 04:11 PM) I ride in PA all the time and I see it all the time. But even if it's legal, don't expect me to ride without one. |
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| Tom_T |
Jun 28 2010, 07:04 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jun 28 2010, 04:47 PM) It could happen, but the collector car lobby has been pretty influential in CA to date. The 'smog exemption' status in CA as I understand it is exemption from testing, not from compliance. Compliance meaning all original equipment intact and certain prescribed emmission levels. Here is a reference for the emissions provisions from the factory at the time of mfr. that I have assembled. They are pretty tame requirements actually, for 914s through 1974. 1975-76 914s became more stringent. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Emissions.htm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Thanx for posting that link, as well as putting it together Jeff - excellent info as always! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Unfortunately the Enviro Lobby is even stronger in CA, and as Jeff knows, AB32 will be imposing all sorts of more stringent Carbon-footprint restrictions in the state in coming years, which may include tougher restrictions on older cars through DMV/CARB regs., &/or limits on driving lesser/non-smog controlled older cars by the local AQMD's (SCAQMD & SJVAQMD have already considered this as a local attainment rule) - so we may be in a straight-jacket in a few years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) IIRC - the minimal smog control benefits between 68-74 MYs on all cars, was the main reason that they gave the testing exempt status initially when they were 20 or 25 yearsold, but then CA backed off on allowing it to be a continually rolling exemption year as originally intended due to the 75> increased restrictions, which can be seen was 4x or more increase restriction over the 74 MY set-up. |
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| Eddie914 |
Jun 28 2010, 07:08 PM
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Unregistered |
I bought a "fixer-upper" Yamaha XJ550 a couple of years ago to let a buddy use (he needed a mental break from his spouse).
I bought the bike for $200 as a roller. A neglected low miles complete bike. It cost $96 to transfer the title and register. Washington State would not accept a value of $300. The stated that the MINIMUM value of a motor vehicle is $300 for title transfer purposes. Painful. Eddie |
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