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> How can you prep the bursch exhaust, to make it last F O R E V E R ???
jsayre914
post Jul 7 2010, 04:20 PM
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if you were following my exhaust leak thread, i purchased a brand new bursch and hooked it up to my stainless heats drove the krap out of the car, drove every day in the rain sleet snow 105 degree weather etc. pulled the motor and dropped the next motor in and drove the crap out of it some more. Then i noticed a hole the size of a softball in the muffler and the pipes are all corroded to hell. In 1 year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

So when i purchase a new bursch and it looks oh so bueatifull on day one. We all know the paint comes off on day 5. Then one month it is solid brown color. and 1 year later it is trash (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

What can i do to the exhaust before i install??

powder coat
ceramic coat
high heat paint
etc.

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post Jul 9 2010, 10:33 AM
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I'd like to get an idea of pricing as well.

Try searching google maps in your area for "exhaust coating" or "performance coating" or the like.

That's how I found a shop nearby (lo-ko.com) that does this. They are presently blasting & powdercoating some spare heat tubes and air intake box for me so I can evaluate their work and service. May have them ceramic coat my SSI HE's and/or Bursch depending on how that goes. That reminds me: They're supposed to have the stuff back to me today.
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(BigDBass @ Jul 9 2010, 12:33 PM) *



Try searching google maps in your area for "exhaust coating" or "performance coating" or the like.


i just tried that, thanks for the tip...

they said it would be close to 200.00 bucks with a 2 1/2 week turnaround. They dont even do it in house. (probaly send it to jet hot) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)

i will call jet hot next (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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post Jul 9 2010, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(BigDBass @ Jul 9 2010, 12:33 PM) *

May have them ceramic coat my SSI HE's


Why? They'll probably outlive your car already. Just curious.
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(zymurgist @ Jul 9 2010, 02:48 PM) *

QUOTE(BigDBass @ Jul 9 2010, 12:33 PM) *

May have them ceramic coat my SSI HE's
Why? They'll probably outlive your car already. Just curious.

Haven't decided, but main benefit I had in mind was to keep the heat moving through it rather than heating it. But while I typed that it dawned on me that that could keep clean air from being heated for heat/defrost purposes, eh!?
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post Jul 10 2010, 05:33 AM
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I think I spent like $150 or so to have it Jet hot coated including shipping. But you need to start with a fairly new muffler. Someone asked about the chrome tip. I think they just blasted the chrome off and coated the whole thing.

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http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...&hl=muffler
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post Jul 10 2010, 09:00 AM
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Hmmmmmmmm....I have a Bursch that's been on my car since 1989 (showed it to Jeff Thursday).
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post Jul 11 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jul 10 2010, 11:00 AM) *

Hmmmmmmmm....I have a Bursch that's been on my car since 1989 (showed it to Jeff Thursday).

who's jeff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

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post Jul 11 2010, 10:07 PM
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Jeff...Joe...same thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jul 10 2010, 11:00 AM) *

Hmmmmmmmm....I have a Bursch that's been on my car since 1989 (showed it to Jeff Thursday).

who's jeff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Jul 12 2010, 04:40 AM
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Just one of those short J-names... it should be easy to remember, Keith. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Jul 12 2010, 08:22 AM
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Kent,

Thanks,
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Just one of those short J-names... it should be easy to remember, Keith. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Jul 12 2010, 11:40 AM
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I guess someone could make a smart ass remark about name problems and Jeff's (Joe's) establishment???

Back on topic, I've found the Jet-Hot coating to be about as good as it gets. Expensive but good!
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Attached ImageMSDS inc. uses a local metallic ceramic contractor with great success rate on the QC and life of the coatings. Thoroughly blasted, heated, coated (inside and outside), heated once again, cured and then burnished for that awesome satin silver look. All of this for approx 1/2 the price of jethot. Call me at 818-507-6937 or PM for a quote on your system...sorry I can't do rusted thru or 18 gauge exhaust systems (most off-shore types)...just too thin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jul 22 2010, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(thomasotten @ Jul 10 2010, 07:33 AM) *

I think I spent like $150 or so to have it Jet hot coated including shipping. But you need to start with a fairly new muffler. Someone asked about the chrome tip. I think they just blasted the chrome off and coated the whole thing.

More pics here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...&hl=muffler


You spent 150 bucks back in august 2007. GREAT DEAL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

I just got a quote from Gus Gusler @ jethot

Outside Only (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Sterling silver 4cyl bursch including strip charge and shipping one way...

... $304.00 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

then add the cost of my new bursch 250.00....

tatall
$554.00


no thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:12 PM
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Joe, take the exhaust to Broadway Auto Parts in Red Lion. Have him bead blast it. I can't remember their machinists name, but he is a very nice guy, and very reasonably priced per hour. He will also tell you up front if he thinks it is too far gone to bring back. Bring it to my place and we will cut off the holed muffler and weld on a flange, and then paint it with some high temp BBQ paint. On a freshly blasted and cleaned surface, the paint should work great.

At that point, we can add whatever new muffler you want to add, and change it as need be.
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:38 PM
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thanks zach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

only one thing i forgot to mention.

I'm sitting right next to my brand new Bursch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I want to treat it before. the install
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Jul 22 2010, 11:38 AM) *

thanks zach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

only one thing i forgot to mention.

I'm sitting right next to my brand new Bursch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I want to treat it before. the install




ceramic coating inside and out is great, Accessories Plus in Belmont Calif. (650 591-2400) does a real nice job at it, local for me, no shipping.
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Jul 22 2010, 09:58 AM) *

I just got a quote from Gus Gusler @ jethot

Outside Only (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Sterling silver 4cyl bursch including strip charge and shipping one way...

... $304.00 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yeah Jet-Hot is crazy expensive. Like Kleenex to tissues, they seem to have managed to make their name synonymous with ceramic coating, but at the end of the day they're just one option. I had a set of HEs done locally, ceramic, for about half what JetHot quoted me, and they came out just as nice (I've done both). Temperature resistance and warranties were similar.

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If you have a new one, still have it bead blasted at Broadway to remove all the cheap paint. Then repaint with high temp grill paint - following the instructions for prep. Prep it well, and it will last.

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dropped my brand new exhaust off to the local powdercoater Tue Morning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will have the before and after picture shortly.

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Sandblast
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Base coat and turbo x inside3 and out
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Bake
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Enjoy
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