 How can you prep the bursch exhaust, to make it last F O R E V E R ??? |
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| VaccaRabite |
 Aug 5 2010, 12:44 PM
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En Garde!  Group: Admin Posts: 13,752 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Aug 5 2010, 12:23 PM)  dropped my brand new exhaust off to the local powdercoater Tue Morning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will have the before and after picture shortly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) The guys near you are going to just powder coat the exhaust, or ceramic coat it? I don't think that regular powder will stand up to exhaust temps, though ceramic will. I had mine ceramic coated. Zach |
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 5 2010, 01:25 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
They said they have HIGH HEAT powder. and the selection goes from like 40 colors down to about 5.
They said they use it all the time. How hot does the exhaust get anyway?? Now you got me scared.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
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| VaccaRabite |
Aug 5 2010, 04:42 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,752 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Don't be scared. I don't know shit about powder coating!
If the pros say they have high heat powder, I am sure that they do. And if it fails after a month, you can take it back and tell them to fix it. I would not be worried. Zach |
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 7 2010, 06:33 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I just got my exhaust back from the powdercoater (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
Sorry i cant get a better picture, today has been very busy, and i only took 1 pic, now i am on my way to the driveway for the install. joe is taking the teener to work sunday morning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) here is the brand new bursch, before. It does look pretty in the the picture, but dont let looks fool you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 7 2010, 06:33 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
here it is powdered and ready..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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| VaccaRabite |
Aug 7 2010, 08:52 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,752 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Looks bitch'n.
Let us know how the high temp powder holds! Zach |
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| scotty b |
Aug 7 2010, 09:09 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Aug 7 2010, 04:33 PM) Speaking in the third peson eh ? Scotty stopped by to see Joe last week, but Joe was on vacation. Scotty got lost in Md. Scotty found the wrong side of town. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) BTW The store cat looked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 7 2010, 09:11 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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I cant believe you stopped by the one vacation i get in 365 days...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ... call me next time |
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| scotty b |
Aug 7 2010, 09:23 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Aug 7 2010, 07:11 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I cant believe you stopped by the one vacation i get in 365 days...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ... call me next time I did...you didn't answer..............ungrateful bastard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 8 2010, 09:10 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 7 2010, 10:52 PM) Looks bitch'n. Let us know how the high temp powder holds! Zach Well after the drive in and the drive home, and a lot of fumes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I am pretty sure most of the paint is gone now, and whattever is left is a bubbly mess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Are there anymore #%!@# smileys to express my anger and frustration?? I will call the guy in the morning, and i will take a pic for you guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| VaccaRabite |
Aug 9 2010, 06:03 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,752 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Oh that sucks!
give this guy a call. He is just south of Harrisburg, and is the guy I used to ceramic coat my headers (which have held up perfectly). He is a nice guy and used to race 914s (or used to work on 914s that raced, can't remember). http://www.papowderworks.com/ Zach |
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| Vysoc |
Aug 9 2010, 06:41 AM
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Vysoc Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Young Harris, Georgia Member No.: 10,737 Region Association: South East States |
This is great stuff, really enjoying the free muffler education. I prepped & painted my older Bursch with the VHT paint and am watching it slowly evolve back into brown. Will be very interested to see the "bubbly mess pictures". Keep it coming!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Vysoc |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Aug 9 2010, 07:06 AM
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Painted mine with Rustoleum "High Heat" (2000ยบ), and it's held up great! Joe has seen it. It's the dull aluminum looking color.
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 9 2010, 09:45 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Here you go.
This brand new Bursch exhaust fresh out of the box with an added 100bucks now has 2 hours of driving time on it. I will let you know what happens next (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Attached image(s)    
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Aug 9 2010, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,444 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Think it contracted herpes.
QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Aug 9 2010, 11:45 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Here you go. This brand new Bursch exhaust fresh out of the box with an added 100bucks now has 2 hours of driving time on it. I will let you know what happens next (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| realred914 |
Aug 9 2010, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Aug 9 2010, 08:45 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Here you go. This brand new Bursch exhaust fresh out of the box with an added 100bucks now has 2 hours of driving time on it. I will let you know what happens next (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) no suprise here, powder coating cant take the heat. youi need ceramic coating to last on the exhaust system like that. I got about 1000 mile son my new ceramic caoted exhaust, even the catalytic converter has intact coating on it . very nice stuff. the place that did my ceramic coat also does regular powder coat, they will NOT powder coat an exhaust becuase of the probelms you have had, powder coat wont hold up to the heat. wrong material choice. hopefully the vendor that did this will refund all you money. then take it to a place that does ceramic coating. they willblast all that junkl off and start with clean metal. ceramic coaters will also coat the inside of the pipe s and muffler this two sided coating can lower the temps that teh metal sees and help remove the exhasut gases faster as they stay hot int eh pipes (the ceramic acts as an insulator. the cermic is put on as a liquid then fired at some very high temps (much higher than powder coat temps) Accessoroes Plus in Blemont CA does the ceramic (and powder) coating they did mine give a call 650 591-2400 ask for Ron, he is the man with teh coating knowledge. major bummer you got stuck with powder coating. hope you get all you money back. it is the wrong material to use. the vendor shoudl have known better |
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| jsayre914 |
Aug 9 2010, 10:40 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The phone call;
ring ring ring John my exhaust didnt even last one hour before the paint just bubbled away. Oh, I guess it got hotter than that 600 degree powder could handle. 600 ? I thought we agreed that the high temp powder was rated at 1200 degrees. No. You said that your exhaust wouldnt get hotter than 400degrees (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Bring it back, I just got in a ceramic powder that is good up to 2400degrees, I can cut the weld on the chrome tip if you wanna keep it, and we can put a couple holes and screw it back on at the end. or we could thread it. I will not charge you because you are a nice guy. Its usually around 300 bucks for this type of coating. I will see you in the morning John Now i know this guy lied to me because we definatly agreed to 1200 degree powder. and i would not tell the guy my exhaust only gets to 400degrees, since i already know it gets much hotter than that. BUT i am willing to see what happens next. Shit, i already paid the guy, and he seems friendly enough. (i must also mention he did drop the exhaust off at my house on Saturay morning) any other powder coaters deliver to a residence free?? |
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| VaccaRabite |
Aug 9 2010, 12:59 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,752 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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If he is going to ceramic coat and comp the price to what you already paid, you are going to be set. The ceramic will take an initial baking in an oven at thier facility, but will still be fragile when you install it on your car. Running the car will finish the baking process and the finish will be excellent.
Do not expect both inside and out to be coated. mine was not. That is usually much more expensive as it takes more tooling and time to do properly. Zach |
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| jsayre914 |
Sep 7 2010, 10:01 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I waited another 2 weeks and picked up my Bursch today from the guy. He ruined my exhaust 100%. He said when the oven got to 600 degrees the metal wrinkled (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) I do not believe much of anything this guy says (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) and I now have a brand new Bursch coated with ceramic (so he says). I am not sure how it will sound, or if it will even work as a muffler at all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I am also not so sure the paint wont just cook off and i am left with nothing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) I would love some opinions or comments. (so much for my new Bursch) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) oh yeah... he said the floor of the kiln also looks like my muffler and he now has to replace the floor. This guy has no idea what he is doing. uggggg Attached image(s)  
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| jsayre914 |
Sep 7 2010, 10:02 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
isnt it beuatiful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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