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> How can you prep the bursch exhaust, to make it last F O R E V E R ???
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:51 AM
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Joe, take a sharp knife - like an exacto knife - and cut one of those puckers. That looks like like the ceramic coat is blistered, and not that the metal is actually dented.

But I could be seeing something wrong. is the metal actually dented? If so, I think that your guy did something horribly wrong. That muffler can take temps well over 600 degrees without deforming. I am guessing that this guy cranked the oven to its hottest possible temp and just left it in there.

If it were me, I'd be asking for a full refund for the work done AND for the cost of a new muffler, with a threat of taking Douchy McPowdercoater to civil court. if you know any lawyers, get one to write you a letter as ammunition. You have been robbed, my friend.

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post Sep 7 2010, 12:18 PM
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looks like the metal is deformed to me....look at the embossed lettering.

that oven must have been set pretty high to not only deform the muffler but also the floor of the guys oven....

The finish just doesn't look like the normal ceramic coating to me either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I think you and your muffler got hosed..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) sorry
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post Sep 7 2010, 12:48 PM
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is the metal actually dented?


Yup! reeeeal bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I could rename this thread, "How to kill a Brand new Bursch Muffler"


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post Sep 7 2010, 02:32 PM
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I just got off the phone with Doug at Horespower Engineering (Bursch) very nice guy, and a great company. A+ . I explained everything to him that was happening, and he explained a bunch of things that could of happend. He also was willing to cut and weld on a new muffler at no cost to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

I thanked him for the offer, and he said he will ceramic coat it before he ships it back to me. I am sending him the pics as soon as i am done posting, if he thinks everything should hold i will just run it as is. Obviously i would pay for the ceramic coating, but How Cool Is This Company
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Thanks Doug, my day just got a lot better (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Sep 7 2010, 02:55 PM
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Blast it to bare metal and paint with POR-20 Exhaust Manifold Grey.


I've never had a problem with this stuff and my muffler looks like the day I had it painted. Just mentioning it for anyone else reading. They've renamed it POR-15 again, the POR-20 is a much higher gloss aluminium look now:

http://www.por15.com/FACTORY-MANIFOLD-GRAY/productinfo/FMGG/

Joe, bummer about your powder guy and WTG Doug at Bursch!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:12 PM
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Joe, thats great news man!

I'd still go after the shop, though. Great vengeance and furious anger and all that.

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:35 PM
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This guy is a f-ing idiot !! When I was at the powder coating shop I also did ceramic coating on ocassion. A semi trained monkey could do this stuff. Sandblast part, blow clean, spray ceramic on and bake. It just isn't that damned hard. This idiot most likely had his oven to high. P.C and ceramic coating are simple easy money. I wish I had my own setup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) You get the " package " yet ?
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Sep 7 2010, 05:35 PM) *

I wish I had my own setup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Me too, i would send you more projects (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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You get the " package " yet ?

Not yet, but it might be at the shop waiting for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

i am still waiting for the final word from Doug.
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post Oct 21 2010, 04:29 PM
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Update: I just got the call today that my Bursch was fixed. Cut the muffler rewelded a brand new one. (FREE!!) by Horse Power Engineering and Doug had a local shop Ceramic Coat it before he sent it back to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

Only thing is... the ceramic coater did a nice smooth black the entire system, including the brand new chrome tip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oh well, The other guy said it looked really cool, kinda like a black chrome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) These Guys went above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks Bursch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

Pics of my one of a kind Bursch will be posted very soon, once i get it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 21 2010, 07:12 PM
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Thats awesome Joe. You will be driving again soon!

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post Oct 27 2010, 03:51 PM
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It looks great black, I love it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Cant Wait To Get Home !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


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post Oct 27 2010, 03:56 PM
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That looks good! Looks stealthy with that black tip! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Glad everything worked out for you.
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post Oct 28 2010, 07:41 AM
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That looks fantastic Joe.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 28 2010, 08:41 AM) *
That looks fantastic Joe.

The glass or the exhaust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Sep 7 2010, 12:32 PM) *

I just got off the phone with Doug at Horespower Engineering (Bursch) very nice guy, and a great company. A+ . I explained everything to him that was happening, and he explained a bunch of things that could of happend. He also was willing to cut and weld on a new muffler at no cost to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

I thanked him for the offer, and he said he will ceramic coat it before he ships it back to me. I am sending him the pics as soon as i am done posting, if he thinks everything should hold i will just run it as is. Obviously i would pay for the ceramic coating, but How Cool Is This Company


I am glad your muffler ordeal was finally and nicely resolved.

Now, I would like to ask why Bursch doesn't just offer ceramic coated exhausts in the first place. They could do it for an extra $50-75 and save people the headache of blasting and coating their exhausts themselves. Plus Bursch could then shake the reputation of selling systems that rust as soon as installed. I've used a Bursch Quiet in the past and was satisfied with the performance, but the thing is rusty!
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post Oct 30 2010, 08:06 PM
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Now, I would like to ask why Bursch doesn't just offer ceramic coated exhausts in the first place. They could do it for an extra $50-75 and save people the headache of blasting and coating their exhausts themselves.

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My car would not have been down as long as it was. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Oct 27 2010, 01:51 PM) *

:Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl:

It looks great black, I love it :D Cant Wait To Get Home !! :driving:



Incredible background!! A Bursch "Pipe" in a Head Shop full of pipes!!! Too funny!

PS - Doug at Horespower Engineering (Bursch) IS Truly a very nice guy!
Just today he took the time to go off and measure and school me on the difference of the 1.7/1.8 exhaust from the 2.0 exhaust. The flanges are actually 1" farther apart from each other on the 1.7/1.8 than on the 2.0 and the the actual flanges are a little more than a 1/4" wider on the 2.0. Saved me knowing this ...cause they sure look the same in photos.

Here's there web site: BURSCH EXHAUST

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post Nov 11 2010, 11:55 AM
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PS - Doug at Horespower Engineering (Bursch) IS Truly a very nice guy!

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He is the MAN (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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I just read this whole thread.

That sucks about the powdercoating prob.. good to see you got it resolved.

Awhile back, I p coated my HE's and my bursch ex. with high temp P coating from eastwood.

I did the work my self at a friends shop who has a sand blaster and an oven.

There where NO special precautions to take for the prep. and application. Hell, I used the cheapie Eastwood p coating gun.The oven only needed to be set at 400*F.

I applied 2 coats. They came out great and after 4k miles, they are holding up perfect.
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revisiting this ...
I see no one posted any pics of their setup where they have installed a flange'd/replaceable muffler?
Im curious : did you use a stainless or aluminized steel ? If SS, did you have to source SS flanges? Did you use 2 or 3 bolt flanges?
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