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| 76-914 |
 Jul 7 2010, 05:45 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist  Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California 
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Well, I've been projectless for 5 months and I'm twitching. I'm thinking about a Vespa restoration (way too much $ for these so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ), building a sailboat (that's in keeping with the tradition of jumping into things I know nothing about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) ), or building another 914 (my personal choice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) ). Hell, I might even take a few years and do it right. So my question is how much are we talking about to create a 914-6 given: #1, a running 4 cyl doner 914 - #2, a running Suby 6 engine. Yes, I understand there are companies that sell conversion parts and/or kits but......... in the real world when it is all said and done, what is the appx. cost? Thx, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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| bfrymire |
Jul 7 2010, 06:16 PM
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Salsaholic Group: Members Posts: 590 Joined: 1-August 04 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 2,431 Region Association: Northern California |
Depends. Heard that before, right?
1. Which motor? The NA 2.5L is one the cheapest to do. 2. Which kit? 3. Are you going to fab the radiator, or buy one? 4. Are you including the cost of the donor 914? 5. Aftermarket ECU or using the stock ECU? As you can see, there are a ton of variables. Low budget, maybe 5k. High budget, much more. Ok. To make some assumptions: EG33 - around 700-900 Conversion Kit = 2000 Radiator = 1000 ECU = 1000-1400 Exhaust = 200+ Gauges = 100+ Also, AC? Heater? You can see from the above numbers, around 5k or so. And this is assuming you do everything else yourself. -- brett QUOTE(76-914 @ Jul 7 2010, 04:45 PM)  Well, I've been projectless for 5 months and I'm twitching. I'm thinking about a Vespa restoration (way too much $ for these so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) ), building a sailboat (that's in keeping with the tradition of jumping into things I know nothing about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) ), or building another 914 (my personal choice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) ). Hell, I might even take a few years and do it right. So my question is how much are we talking about to create a 914-6 given: #1, a running 4 cyl doner 914 - #2, a running Suby 6 engine. Yes, I understand there are companies that sell conversion parts and/or kits but......... in the real world when it is all said and done, what is the appx. cost? Thx, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| nsyr |
Jul 7 2010, 06:35 PM
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Because I Can Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 16-May 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 2,073 |
I did mine for about $2000.
jdm twin turbo engine 700 shipped generic stainless headers and stock wrx turbo 350 megasquirt ecu 400 suby front wheel drive transmission 300 odds and ends ... i had a 944 radiator and fan assembly already If I was to do it over I would get an america wrx engine, transmission and ecu. you pay for it one way or another the jdm engines are slightly different and a bit more difficult to get parts for. head gaskets and what not. |
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| firstknight13 |
Jul 7 2010, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 25-March 05 From: manchester,ct. Member No.: 3,817 |
QUOTE(nsyr @ Jul 7 2010, 04:35 PM) I did mine for about $2000. jdm twin turbo engine 700 shipped generic stainless headers and stock wrx turbo 350 megasquirt ecu 400 suby front wheel drive transmission 300 odds and ends ... i had a 944 radiator and fan assembly already If I was to do it over I would get an america wrx engine, transmission and ecu. you pay for it one way or another the jdm engines are slightly different and a bit more difficult to get parts for. head gaskets and what not. where do you get a megasquirt ecu for 400??????? for thyat price i'll take 2!!!! Attached image(s) 
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| Rotary'14 |
Jul 7 2010, 07:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 |
QUOTE(firstknight13 @ Jul 7 2010, 06:09 PM) QUOTE(nsyr @ Jul 7 2010, 04:35 PM) I did mine for about $2000. jdm twin turbo engine 700 shipped generic stainless headers and stock wrx turbo 350 megasquirt ecu 400 suby front wheel drive transmission 300 odds and ends ... i had a 944 radiator and fan assembly already If I was to do it over I would get an america wrx engine, transmission and ecu. you pay for it one way or another the jdm engines are slightly different and a bit more difficult to get parts for. head gaskets and what not. where do you get a megasquirt ecu for 400??????? for thyat price i'll take 2!!!! Well you get a basic built unit from these guys,, they repaired mine for me after another "respected" repair guy couldn't find my mistake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) http://www.symtechlabs.com/catalog/megasqu...s-ecu-p-32.html I would suggest upgrading the ECU to MS2, but do what your budget allows. -Rob |
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| nsyr |
Jul 8 2010, 08:41 AM
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Because I Can Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 16-May 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 2,073 |
i have ms2 w/v3 board. i bought it as a kit 6-7 years ago from diyautotune.com. if i recall the kit was less than $300 and i bought the stim kit and relay board with it.
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| 1968Cayman |
Jul 8 2010, 09:20 AM
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Redacted by Irving Washington Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 5-February 10 From: Holly Springs, GA Member No.: 11,332 Region Association: South East States |
I'm about $500 into my Subie 2,2l conversion. So far it includes the following:
'95 EJ22 Harness ECU 2 FWD Subie trannies (one was to trade for the new cradle) Axels Needless to say, PAP has been a tremendous boon. I even saw a subie 6 out at one location that was in a car that'd been hit hard in the rear. PAP charges $150 for 4 cyl, think it's $200 for 6(??) and I bought the harness and ECU out of the car I pulled the engine from for $20. I think patience is the key to keeping project costs down, but I happened upon PAP at a time when they had all of the above parts in the yard at once. Going to buy an MR2 shifter, a new water pump and a new radiator for the project but other than those items and fuel/coolant lines it's not too much of a stretch to think the car will be running for under $1500. That's taking into account the turbo that I have yet to buy . . . |
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| underthetire |
Jul 8 2010, 10:23 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(firstknight13 @ Jul 7 2010, 06:09 PM) QUOTE(nsyr @ Jul 7 2010, 04:35 PM) I did mine for about $2000. jdm twin turbo engine 700 shipped generic stainless headers and stock wrx turbo 350 megasquirt ecu 400 suby front wheel drive transmission 300 odds and ends ... i had a 944 radiator and fan assembly already If I was to do it over I would get an america wrx engine, transmission and ecu. you pay for it one way or another the jdm engines are slightly different and a bit more difficult to get parts for. head gaskets and what not. where do you get a megasquirt ecu for 400??????? for thyat price i'll take 2!!!! A little soldering and 254.00 gets you one from DIY autotune, MS2-V3. |
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