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| richardL |
 Apr 10 2004, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None  |
Here are pictures from this morning. I tried to get pictures of most everyone's cars. There was a very fast 'non-windshield' car from Sacramento, but my battery had died by then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Alameda AutoX 04/10/04 Enjoy! Richard |
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| nine14cats |
Apr 11 2004, 11:19 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
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| nine14cats |
Apr 11 2004, 11:23 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
The Alameda Auto-X was alot of fun...I've been fighting car issues the last month but we still ended up posting some respectable times....
Here's a shot of the spring change....done in 12 minutes trackside (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Thanks for help B, It would have been alot longer without your help... Bill P. Attached image(s) 
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| nine14cats |
Apr 11 2004, 11:27 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Here's Andrew Blyholder, normally in the hunt for TTOD but 914 mechanical gremlins kept him from challenging on this day....
Is this a theme? Attached image(s) 
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| nine14cats |
Apr 11 2004, 11:29 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
And here is Tim Martin's 914-6 with a broken clutch cable...Tim and B had the car back up and running in time for the end of the day beers at Chili's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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| Brad Roberts |
Apr 11 2004, 11:29 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I didnt realize how many people where off the pace and *want* to be ON the pace. Each AutoX will take a slightly different setup, but one season of testing/changing and all seasons after that you can dial the car in prior to the event. People like Andrew Blyholder and Demick who change alignments and HAUL ASS in mostly stock 914's should tell everyone something about what it takes to run in the top 10 when you have over 80 cars entered.
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| Brad Roberts |
Apr 11 2004, 11:31 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Bill,
Why is Andrew not on the club site ? I didnt know he was having problems.. I would have tried to help him out. B |
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| nine14cats |
Apr 11 2004, 11:38 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi B,
I haven't spoken specifically to Andrew about the site...he's a busy guy like all of us... As far as his car, he normally drives a highly modified X class car that has been lightend considerably. But he spun a clutch at the first event and hasn't had time to fix it yet. So he showed up in his daily driver 914, changes the alignment and rear toe settings at the track...plays...and can get close to TTOD with a stock car.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I tell ya...Andrew, Demick, guys like that....they really show what a stock 914 is capable of against the big motor, modified guys...For those that appreciate it, it really is fun too watch them drive! Bill P. |
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| Andyrew |
Apr 11 2004, 11:49 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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I met Andrew 4 years or so, he was auto xing his 914 at an scca meet. Rode with him then, (he told my dad that I could ride with him yesterday, but I didnt get to talk with him)
Anthony, I'll resize them in a min, I was just getting those pics out there so you guys could see them. Batch mode eh? alright. Brad, Thats alot of helpful information you have there, someday you'll have to teach me what those tire temps and such (0utside, inside center tire temps) mean in reality, I heard it once, but didnt stick. 12 min spring change? Schiiit!! Mines taking like 3 days.. but im sanding my rusty koni's and my rusty springs (got em cheap) and painting them. BTW (dang, off subject..) How exactly do you measure the pounds of a spring (ie 140lbs, 180lbs) Cus I dont know what the spring rate is for these springs I got.. I just want to know before I get them on. I have one spring loose from the shock.. Thanks Andrew |
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| Brad Roberts |
Apr 11 2004, 11:59 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
It is pretty easy:
IMO = Inside/Middle/Outside Bill's inside rear temps where in the 160 range, his outside temps where in the 100 degree range (if I recall correctly).. this means he is not using all of the available tire. This tells me (quickly) that he has too much negative camber in the rear and that he is not rolling the slick over enough to flatten it out. Taking some negative camber out of the rear will get the temps a little closer to even over the tire surface (the tire will have more static and rolling contact patch).. basically whomever did his aligment doesnt understand what a bias ply slick needs. They set it up with too much negative camber. Typically a bias ply slick likes anywhere from "0" negative camber to 1.5 max. I'm betting Bill's car has 2.0 to 2.5 neg in it just from looking at it from behind. I'll know when I change his complete setup over the next few weeks. B |
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| Andyrew |
Apr 11 2004, 12:27 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Interesting, very interesting.
We just installed hoosiers that probably had 25-40% left (alot of tread.. Im just guessing, never seen new hoosiers) So, were switching the tires before we left and the right rear tire had a running cord (bout 2 cm) all the way around the tire on the inside. We have LSD in the trani, so it wasnt like we where lighting up the inside like crazy, I did spin once.. but I tried to let it roll so as to not flat spot the tires (did that already.. now im blaming this one on dad..) I should have been taking tire temps. Next time.. Maybe I'll have my own helmet by then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Andrew |
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| mikey |
Apr 11 2004, 12:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None |
Saw most of this event and it looked like a lot of fun. I just gotta get my car on the road by this summer!
WTF? Some of the cars had two people in them. Seems like the extra weight would slow them down. What's the point of carrying a passenger? |
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| Brad Roberts |
Apr 11 2004, 12:38 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Carry passenger = passenger learns OR they are instructing the driver.
I was riding shotgun with a person in a 2.0 914 a few weeks back and we took top time of day while I was in the car with him. B |
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| Andyrew |
Apr 11 2004, 12:45 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Passenger is an instructor or driver is an instructor while passenger is a learner. Basically its like your dad holding you while your learning to ride your bike..
My instructor (cordinator of the event no less) ditched me in the afternoon sesions. (I think it was more that he wanted me to do it on my own.. but still (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) I would rather have an instuctor thats going to tell me to go faster, than me telling myself to go faster.. You learn more. (there was maybe 10 first timers out saturday from the show of hands..) Andrew |
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| dan10101 |
Apr 11 2004, 01:38 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 11 2004, 10:27 AM) (did that already.. now im blaming this one on dad..) I should have been taking tire temps. Hey, I never light up the tires... much. What are you going to take temps with? We could try Moms baking thermometer. A helmet would be a good investment. |
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| J P Stein |
Apr 11 2004, 02:25 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Apr 11 2004, 08:59 AM) Man o Man.. I really really feel bad for the rest of the 914 people in the USA. When was the last time you had 20+ 914's show up to an AutoX ?? Heh...... At SCCA AX, there is seldom any other 914s......and maybe 3-4 other Porsches... out of 150 cars. I feel sorry for 914 drivers that don't do SCCA......there are stone quick drivers/cars at em'. Some of theses guys really KNOW what it takes to go fast and, consequently, run 40 or so AXs a year. I'm gonna have to work at gettin' in 20 this year. My car set-up is not the worry, it's the chump behind the wheel. |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 11 2004, 03:15 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,677 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(seanery @ Apr 11 2004, 06:16 AM) So Andy, does that mean you won your class twice now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) MUSR & this one? 3 times! MUSR & LPR (03/21/2004) & GGR (04/10/2004) at least, at MUSR i had some competition (and wasn't driving MY car) ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Andy |
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| URY914 |
Apr 11 2004, 07:25 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Man, that looks fun, wish I was there!!!
Paul |
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| EdwardBlume |
Apr 11 2004, 09:14 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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It looks like Brad and others had their arms in a few cars. Awesome. You can't buy this experience and knowledge. It's great to have support at events by people who know what they're doing. The end result is a higher level of competition and better times. Both good things.
Again, its good to see all the 914s out there! Thanks! |
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| campbellcj |
Apr 11 2004, 09:23 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,549 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California
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Looks like a fun time -- thanks for all the pics and stories.
I was there in "spirit" with you guys. I spent a lot of the weekend cutting, drilling, grinding and riveting on the 914. This one effin' car could keep me busy the next 3 years of weekends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Demick |
Apr 11 2004, 10:25 PM
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Ernie made me do it! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257  |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Apr 11 2004, 09:29 AM) People like Andrew Blyholder and Demick who change alignments and HAUL ASS in mostly stock 914's should tell everyone something about what it takes to run in the top 10 when you have over 80 cars entered. I can usually get to top 5 or top 7 out of 100-120 cars. The last 2 years I managed top 3 at almost half of the events that I went to - but this season there are too many fast cars for me to manage that (too many 914 race cars like Steve, Randall, Bill, Andrew, etc). I don't mess with alignment settings or anything like that (I have what I call an aggressive street / mild autox alignment). My auto-x prep involves only changing tires to Victoracers. Engine is completely stock 2.0 with F.I. 140 lb rear springs, 19mm adjustable front sway bar adjusted fully soft. Other than that the car is bone stock. More than anything else is time spent behind the wheel. It took me 4 years of autox to get 'competetive'. Just get out there and drive and make sure you're having fun. Demick |
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