914/6 Oil Tank Dimensions, Need a measurement please |
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914/6 Oil Tank Dimensions, Need a measurement please |
jmill |
Aug 4 2010, 04:25 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm hoping some one has a pdf of the oil tank dimensions. I want to build one like brant. Heck I'll send him a pm and see if he has them. If you've built your own or have the dimensions feel free to post them. Pics are good.
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patssle |
Aug 4 2010, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
I'd take one too...if its a bit cheaper than the other alternative (PMS).
Anybody know why dwdesignwerks stopped making the oil tank? |
SirAndy |
Aug 4 2010, 04:40 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Anybody know why dwdesignwerks stopped making the oil tank? Because he moved to Australia (if i recall correctly) ... I thought someone here on the board was going to take over production from him. What ever happened to that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
jmill |
Aug 4 2010, 04:51 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is where I saw his tank. It's sweet!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...mp;hl=oil++tank |
jmill |
Aug 4 2010, 06:41 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Drawings found on this thread!!! Does anyone still have the large original?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=45335&hl= Attached image(s) |
rick 918-S |
Aug 4 2010, 07:22 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,457 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I boosted these photos from someplace... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Aug 4 2010, 07:28 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,457 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
How much do the filter consoles and filler necks cost and where can you purchase them? BTW: The screen is knocks the air out of the falling return oil. The one in the aluminum tank looks like it have quite large holes compared to factory tank. This is the key to building a good tank IMHO.
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Dr Evil |
Aug 4 2010, 07:33 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I was looking at this and wondering, why is it necessary to have the plumbing and oil filter hookup in/on the tank? If you are building your own, why not simplify it and place the filter vertically, and remotely? Make the tank a tank, oil in the top, out the bottom. No?
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rick 918-S |
Aug 4 2010, 07:39 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,457 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I was looking at this and wondering, why is it necessary to have the plumbing and oil filter hookup in/on the tank? If you are building your own, why not simplify it and place the filter vertically, and remotely? Make the tank a tank, oil in the top, out the bottom. No? It looks like the aluminum tank is built this way. A remote filter console is not a big deal. The filter should have the builtin check valve though I would think. |
BigD9146gt |
Aug 4 2010, 07:45 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Mike, your spot on. There is no reason but compactness to have the filter on the tank... for the 3.6 engine guys, a tank without the filter would suffice. I designed my tank to obsessively be like the OEM tank, nothing more, nothing less. Well, a pound lighter and more volume, and better cooling (aluminium vs steel)... but those were all bonus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dr Evil |
Aug 4 2010, 07:50 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
But the aluminum tank still keeps the plumbing within the tank which is one of the obstacles to building an easy tank.
I figure a line out of the bottom of the tank and in to a remote cooler mount, like the one in my bus that has the bypass valve and is cheap and readily available, out of the mount to the engine, and a return line from the engine to the top of the tank would be easy to do and take up little space. Then, you still get to use the spare room in the fender as intended (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It does appear that the aluminum tank was intended this way. |
Dr Evil |
Aug 4 2010, 07:51 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mike, your spot on. There is no reason but compactness to have the filter on the tank... for the 3.6 engine guys, a tank without the filter would suffice. I designed my tank to obsessively be like the OEM tank, nothing more, nothing less. Well, a pound lighter and more volume, and better cooling (aluminium vs steel)... but those were all bonus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Definitely not detracting form your most awesome tank (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Just trying to see if a simpler home version could be fabbed by the CSOBs like me on the forum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
BigD9146gt |
Aug 4 2010, 10:55 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Thanks for the props Mike. My ultimate 914-6 tank would be to stamp two halves (like the OEM tank) out of stainless like the 996 tanks. With two halves it would be less welding for me, but cost would probably be higher unless I could invest a boatload to stamp 1000+ units. But then the question is how long do I have to sit on that many to recoup the costs.
Simply its a tank, oil in, oil out. However how the internals work (screens, plumbing, baffling, etc) will make a difference. |
Jeffs9146 |
Aug 5 2010, 12:13 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE If you are building your own, why not simplify it and place the filter vertically, and remotely? Make the tank a tank, oil in the top, out the bottom. No? Since we have two threads going here is the photo of what I have to get rid of!! Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jeffs9146 |
Aug 5 2010, 12:21 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
another
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jmill |
Aug 5 2010, 01:16 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Sir Andy, links are dead. Do you still have this info floating around in cyberspace? Mike's looking to see if he still has them also. I'm hoping you can just fix the links so I don't have to worry about email size limits.
Thanks With SirAndy's help, I have uploaded a couple of versions of the factory drawings for the /6 oil tank. I have a copy that was made by the factory from a database of digitized drawings. The copy that I have is pretty big, not in front of me, but something like 3 feet by 4 feet. It shows the tank full size. I had it scanned, and I got three files, two of which I uploaded: a 22meg pdf and a 7 meg (approx) Jpeg. Here's the pdf link: http://www.914world.com/videos/plan.pdf and the Jpeg: http://www.914world.com/videos/plan.jpg Big files of course. If someone is able to reduce one of them to make it easier for those who don't have the latest connections, please do so. The third file is a .psd extension. Dunno what that is, but it's 48 meg ! Michel Richard |
brant |
Aug 5 2010, 01:27 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The aluminum tank is mine. I built it as a welding class project. It does fit in the stock location. There really isn't any plumbing inside of it. There is an inlet that directs the "fall" of oil over hte screen. There also is a breather that has a baffle partially covering it to keep oil slosh from directly exiting. I also baffled the bottom of the tank to potentially improve corning oil over stock.
but it really doesn't have any plumbing in it. The stock or nice repro tanks have tubing so that returning oil is forced through the filter prior to dropping into the pool below. I skipped that for better mounting flexibility and am going to use a remote oil filter. With the stock filler neck and dipstick, this tank has about 175$ in supplies alone. If someone was paying for labour, professional welding, and the costs of tooling, I don't think the prices of aftermarket tanks are making anyone rich. |
SirAndy |
Aug 5 2010, 01:35 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Sir Andy, links are dead. No idea what happened to those files ... I *may* have a old backup of that folder at home, but you'll have to wait until tonight to find out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
IronHillRestorations |
Aug 5 2010, 04:21 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,717 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I have a good friend that has a stainless fabrication shop. If he can get a good print, he can quote.
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jmill |
Aug 5 2010, 06:11 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If someone can come up with the print you might want to run it by your friend. If he can produce a quality product cheaper than the current options I'm sure he'll have buyers.
It won't work for me though. I'd like to save a bunch of money by making my own close to OEM tank. |
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