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[RFoulds]

Found the tool kit last night. It was under the spare, nicely wrapped in a towel and a bag. Looks like it has never been touched. Still has a black rubber band around it. Of course the jack is in its place, rear trunk.

Where was the tool kit originally placed? Was it secured?

[Bleyseng]

isn't there a pic in the owners manual? I thought the tool kits were stashed in the back with the jack but I can't recall whats in the manual.

[RFoulds]

Didn't think to look there! thanks!

[Tom_T]

I'm pretty sure the towel wasn't OE Randy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I ended up using either F or R trunk for my tool kit (still in plastic pouch btw), depending upon how I was packing the car for a trip, etc. I usually found the rear with the jack more convenient otherwise. Manual pic will show it for your 74, my 73 manual might be different, so I didn't look for you.

You can also look here for proper 74 MY tool kit contents & other OE fitment info -

http://www.p914.com/p914_tools.htm
http://www.p914.com/

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/TechNotebook.htm
http://www.bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/ (some useful 74 MY info, even for your 1.8)

These will be great resto resources for you in a number of areas, as well as the 914 info section on here.

[RFoulds]

Pulled fuel tank today. Sorry no pics, camera still not back from repair. very clean underneath, but the front two bolts for the underpan were missing. Wire was stuck in there to hold it on!
tank is half full of old gas, and all rust inside. Filler tube is rusted away inside.
Under tank, one black wire ran down from above, with a quick connector right at the access hole. Any idea what that was? was fuel pump locate here at one time??

[Pat Garvey]

Dealer accessory item applied by the dealer or you!
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Accessories.htm

I total agreement!

The stripes were a local, Factory OK'd addition. Not supplied by Porsche (at least in the early years). You either had the dealer monkeys apply them (the same ones who couldn't figure out which fender to drill for the antenna), or did them yourself (easy).

Pat

[Tom_T]

Pulled fuel tank today. Sorry no pics, camera still not back from repair. very clean underneath, but the front two bolts for the underpan were missing. Wire was stuck in there to hold it on!
tank is half full of old gas, and all rust inside. Filler tube is rusted away inside.
Under tank, one black wire ran down from above, with a quick connector right at the access hole. Any idea what that was? was fuel pump locate here at one time??

On pre-75 914s, the factory recommended fuel pump relocation Service Bulletin was/is to put it up behind the steering rack cover behind the ZF Rack itself next to the lower access hole. Power can be wired either along the pass. side rocker/sill space or through the tunnel - but most mechanics don't want to screw with this extra work & it's not accessible for inspection later for a wiring problem. This would require 2 wires for power the FP though, so that's either half the set or something else.

[RFoulds]

Still not sure what the wires there are. Fuel tank was not salvageable. So many HUGE chunks of rust, no way it can be cleaned up and recoated to usable condition.
Filler neck was so rusted that it was a solid block of rust inside. Sending unit shot too.

But, on the plus side, I dropped the car at Desert Motorsports to have the engine evaluated, before I begin anything else. They tell me the engine turned easily, and they feel that replacing hoses, fuel pump and tune up is all thats going to be necessary to get it started.

I'm going to chase down a replacementt tank this week, get it out to them and let them get it running..

Once they have that accomplished, then I will bring her back home for all the rest of the work.

[JeffBowlsby]

I'd like to see that service bulletin Tom...can you send it to me? Never heard that the factory recommended this relocation, but I have not come across any 914 service bulletins either. All I have are the Service and Tech manuals, and recall campaigns, I don't recall any of them ever suggesting the FP relocation.

I have also never experienced vapor lock here in NorCal, ever. Maybe it occurs in hotter climes, but not here that I personally know of.

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Pulled fuel tank today. Sorry no pics, camera still not back from repair. very clean underneath, but the front two bolts for the underpan were missing. Wire was stuck in there to hold it on!
tank is half full of old gas, and all rust inside. Filler tube is rusted away inside.
Under tank, one black wire ran down from above, with a quick connector right at the access hole. Any idea what that was? was fuel pump locate here at one time??

On pre-75 914s, the factory recommended fuel pump relocation Service Bulletin was/is to put it up behind the steering rack cover behind the ZF Rack itself next to the lower access hole. Power can be wired either along the pass. side rocker/sill space or through the tunnel - but most mechanics don't want to screw with this extra work & it's not accessible for inspection later for a wiring problem. This would require 2 wires for power the FP though, so that's either half the set or something else.

[Tom_T]

Hey Jeff,

I don't have that bulletin per se, but my longtime mechanics at Hans Imports used to have it on-hand in the "old school" paper file days - & I remember looking at it in the binder when they suggested the FP relo for vapor lock back in the late 70's (& did it then).

I can ask them if they happen to still have their old VoA & P+A Service bulletins/binders to make a copy, but I'm not holding my breath cuz they've cleared out most old stuff over the 30+ years since!

Also, I tried to get a set of the service bulletin binders myself on evil-bay a while back, but wasn't successful bidding for it - & don't even know how complete they were.

If I do come across an actual copy again - &/or anything else similar on our 914s, then I'll certainly shoot you off some copies.

You might want to link your 914 Tech Notebook section to the main 914 CANAM & Classic 914 main pages, because IIRC they don't have a link, but it's chock full of excellent info!

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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I'd like to see that service bulletin Tom...can you send it to me? Never heard that the factory recommended this relocation, but I have not come across any 914 service bulletins either. All I have are the Service and Tech manuals, and recall campaigns, I don't recall any of them ever suggesting the FP relocation.

I have also never experienced vapor lock here in NorCal, ever. Maybe it occurs in hotter climes, but not here that I personally know of.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Pulled fuel tank today. Sorry no pics, camera still not back from repair. very clean underneath, but the front two bolts for the underpan were missing. Wire was stuck in there to hold it on!
tank is half full of old gas, and all rust inside. Filler tube is rusted away inside.
Under tank, one black wire ran down from above, with a quick connector right at the access hole. Any idea what that was? was fuel pump locate here at one time??

On pre-75 914s, the factory recommended fuel pump relocation Service Bulletin was/is to put it up behind the steering rack cover behind the ZF Rack itself next to the lower access hole. Power can be wired either along the pass. side rocker/sill space or through the tunnel - but most mechanics don't want to screw with this extra work & it's not accessible for inspection later for a wiring problem. This would require 2 wires for power the FP though, so that's either half the set or something else.

[JeffBowlsby]

Thanks Tom. I have heard rare and vague references to 'service bulletins' in the past, but have never seen any. I am not sure they even exist given how generic that term is. I do have a complete set of the Service and Training manuals though, they were issued to train the dealers as new models were intriduced, explaining the differences. I would put them up on the site but they are copyrighted.

My 'Tech Notebook' does have a link to it on the main 'Classic 914' page if its easier to find. If its not showing up on your browser...clear your memory cache and refresh.

[Tom_T]

Thanks Tom. I have heard rare and vague references to 'service bulletins' in the past, but have never seen any. I am not sure they even exist given how generic that term is. I do have a complete set of the Service and Training manuals though, they were issued to train the dealers as new models were intriduced, explaining the differences. I would put them up on the site but they are copyrighted.

My 'Tech Notebook' does have a link to it on the main 'Classic 914' page if its easier to find. If its not showing up on your browser...clear your memory cache and refresh.

OK - I probably just missed the link.

I'm not positive that they were called specifically "Service Bulletins" - but you get the drift. They weren't a part of the factory manual set, unless there's an "extra binder" for them. These would've been issued over time to the P+A dealerships' service depts., & my guy Hans was a factory trained (on 914s etc.) mechanic with his own shop - so he had a way to get them too.

Most any car make/model has these as the level below a recall type fix, & my 85 BMW 325e had several pertaining to the A/C controls, which drove Hans & his guys crazy until they found them & debugged my A/C after a complete system overhaul & conversion to R134. So I may be remembering the BMW term of art for these "service bulletins".

[Tom_T]

Dealer accessory item applied by the dealer or you!
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Accessories.htm

I total agreement!

The stripes were a local, Factory OK'd addition. Not supplied by Porsche (at least in the early years). You either had the dealer monkeys apply them (the same ones who couldn't figure out which fender to drill for the antenna), or did them yourself (easy).

Pat

Pat & Randy - IIRC, the dealers were selling the same early style "PORSCHE" side stripes as accessories for both the 911/912 line & 914s since the late 60's (67 or 68 IIRC when they were first added to 911's/912's). Then in 74 with the intro of the LE's, they came up with a 914 based negative stripe/decal, but those also got put on some customers' 911s/912Es back in the day.

I don't know who their OES's were, but the decals were copyright/trademark controlled, ergo had to be "approved" by Porsche for manufacture. Otherwise, they would've closed them down, as they did with the makers of the 914 rear reflector accessory made specifically to fit the 914 rear panel (as opposed to the cut down 911/912/930 rear reflectors used after that point).

[RFoulds]

Just an update. OE steel wheels are being sandblasted and primed, then a coat of satin black on the backside, and a few coats of Wurth White (really silver) wheel paint on front side.

I ordered the paint from a California vendor, so I didn't have to content with the "can't ship into CA" ordeal.

Again, the Wurth white looks like a better match to the mid-70's vintage steel wheel finish than the Wurth Silver.

Not sure about the satin black for backside of wheel though.

[Tom_T]

Just an update. OE steel wheels are being sandblasted and primed, then a coat of satin black on the backside, and a few coats of Wurth White (really silver) wheel paint on front side.

I ordered the paint from a California vendor, so I didn't have to content with the "can't ship into CA" ordeal.

Again, the Wurth white looks like a better match to the mid-70's vintage steel wheel finish than the Wurth Silver.

Not sure about the satin black for backside of wheel though.

Never can tell about those backsides (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Randy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

IIRC, that O&H Wheels nailed thread has a good pic of the OE finish F & R - incl. the dusting look. When you get done, plz post pix of yours & the paints info. in there, as well as this one - so others have the benefit of your work.

Was that the Wurth Wheels White or whatever they call it? IIRC they also sell that at BavAuto for the BMW wheels refinishing (I have an 85 325e).

[RFoulds]

Hey Tom,

Yes, I checked the O&H wheel post and that helped me decide to go with the White Wheel paint instead of the Wurth Silver.

Spoke with Terry at Goodspeed Motoring and he recalled using the Wurth White on a 80's Volvo with good results. I researrched that finish, and to my eye, it looks a lot more like what I think the original steelies look like.

So, I ordered 3 cans, (they are huge) from Goodspeed.

I can't wait to get the wheeels back to give this a try.

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[Pat Garvey]

Not that this should be an issue, but the exterior paint is not clear coated. I oxidizes, even when stored. With that in mind, Know that your Oly Blue will have faded, but not inderneath the side stripes so much.

So, if you want to bring the paint back to it's original form...remove the sttripes (slowly, with a hair dryer) & then go after the rest of the car with petrochemical compounds. When you can no longer see the shadow from the stripes, youre done.

I've had positive & ngative stripes during the 38 year ownership of my 914. I prefer none.
Pat

[Tom_T]

Hey Tom,

Yes, I checked the O&H wheel post and that helped me decide to go with the White Wheel paint instead of the Wurth Silver.

Spoke with Terry at Goodspeed Motoring and he recalled using the Wurth White on a 80's Volvo with good results. I researrched that finish, and to my eye, it looks a lot more like what I think the original steelies look like.

So, I ordered 3 cans, (they are huge) from Goodspeed.

I can't wait to get the wheeels back to give this a try.

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That "White Alloy" name sounds like some of the German-to-English translations of parts names in the Porsche 914 PET parts catalog - like "desk pad" for the side mirror base gaskets! I guess the Asian translated electronics manuals aren't the only ones with strange translations! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think that's the one recco'd for my painted alloy wheels on my BMW too.

[Niklas]

Hi!

Yes the colour is a european colour code RAL 9006.
It is standard paint on many german cars.
You can also find it on ebay.de search for RAL 9006.


Niklas