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SS Fuel Line Install Questions |
Spoke |
Aug 16 2010, 07:34 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I put in SS fuel lines tonight and I've got a few questions.
The engine side of the SS lines looks fine. No issues here. On the tank side, both fuel lines seem to come out too forward towards the front of the car. The one on the left of the pic is pointing directly into the bulkhead and is touching the bulkhead. Question: Should I try to bend the fuel lines to make some clearance for hoses? I don't want to kink the lines. The shorter SS fuel lines go through the tin and I don't have the original rubber gaskets. Question: Can these be purchased new or taken off of parts cars or other type of homemade grommet? I'm assuming the bendable tabs that are shown holding the fuel lines are for the fuel lines, correct? I don't have a FI car to look at. |
SLITS |
Aug 16 2010, 07:58 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Go to HF aand get the cheapo tubing bender ... Put a slight bend in them to clear ... if you try by just hand, you may kink them
Some of the tabs are for fuel hose ... put a piece of rubber around them at that point. |
tradisrad |
Aug 16 2010, 08:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I had to bend mine at the tank end. I did not go stainless in the engine compartment, but you can bend those.
Like Slits said get a tubing bender. |
Spoke |
Aug 16 2010, 08:29 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Thanks. I do have a tube bender tool.
Do I need to bend them before I install them? In other words do I need to pull them back out, bend, then reinstall? Doesn't seem like much room to get the tool in there. |
SLITS |
Aug 16 2010, 08:33 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I made my own. Ran the tubes through and bent the fronts, then bent the rears after pulling them back slightly.
If you can push the tubes through the front firewall a tad more you can probably get the bender on them. You could try sticking a large phillips screwdriver in the tube and levering up on it slightly till you get clearance. Just don't try for a great amount. |
VaccaRabite |
Aug 16 2010, 08:33 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,442 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you can get enough purchase on them to bend them in place, do it. You might have JUST enough poking out there. Won't know until you try.
Zach |
EdwardBlume |
Aug 16 2010, 09:21 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I didn't bend mine on the recent install... make sure they are not hung up on something and twisting downward...
+1 on shielding the lines upward from the engine shelf.. Lastly, the rubber plugs are special and I'd recommend using them... Mikey perhaps? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
pilothyer |
Aug 16 2010, 11:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 838 Joined: 21-May 08 From: N. Alabama Member No.: 9,080 Region Association: South East States |
Question: Can these be purchased new or taken off of parts cars or other type of homemade grommet?
The rubber grommets you need are the same as the brake line grommets and are available new. Here is a link that references the same application for the engine shelf fuel lines and the master cylinder to reservoir lines: http://www.autoatlanta.org/detail.lasso?Pa...al_number=10036 |
nsr-jamie |
Aug 17 2010, 04:59 AM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
Are those the Tangerine Racing lines? Looks like your car is fuel injected, right? How much work was it to install those lines? I need em too, but have never pulled my gas tank before and don't have the confidence to do it....just curious how much work it was. Cheers
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Spoke |
Aug 17 2010, 05:15 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
The rubber grommets you need are the same as the brake line grommets and are available new. Here is a link that references the same application for the engine shelf fuel lines and the master cylinder to reservoir lines: http://www.autoatlanta.org/detail.lasso?Pa...al_number=10036 Thanks! Exactly what I'm looking for. Are those the Tangerine Racing lines? Looks like your car is fuel injected, right? How much work was it to install those lines? I need em too, but have never pulled my gas tank before and don't have the confidence to do it....just curious how much work it was. Cheers Yep, Tangerine Racing lines. I'm going from carbs back to FI so many of the grommets and other FI related items have been removed. It wasn't hard to put them in although the engine and gas tank are out of the car. The hardest part was getting the lines started as the bend at the tank requires the lines to be started at an angle going into the tunnel. |
Spoke |
Aug 17 2010, 05:16 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
If you can get enough purchase on them to bend them in place, do it. You might have JUST enough poking out there. Won't know until you try. Zach I can't get my tube bending tool anywhere near the ends of the lines. There's only about 2-2.5 inches of the tube exposed and the ends are right against the bulkhead. I'll have to uninstall, bend, then reinstall. It wasn't difficult to get them in so it's not a big deal. |
SLITS |
Aug 17 2010, 07:05 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I used the stock grommets. On the front, I pulled the grommet, fed the lines thru, made a slight upward bend and the reinstalled the grommet (a bitch even with rubber lube).
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my928s4 |
Aug 17 2010, 10:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 18-August 07 From: Spokane, WA Member No.: 8,018 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks for this thread, this is one of my next projects, great pictures!
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jim_hoyland |
Aug 17 2010, 10:45 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,281 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
What do the instructions say ? I was under the impression the replacement SS fuel lines were a near perfect fit ??
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Spoke |
Aug 17 2010, 12:26 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
If there were instructions, I've lost them. I've had the SS lines for about a year now. It took me an hour to find where I stashed the lines as it was.
The fit of the lines in the tunnel are very good. the only resistance to pushing the lines back and forth are the rubber grommets at each end of the tunnel. The issue is they are not bent enough at the tank end. It's only a minor adjustment. |
ChrisFoley |
Aug 17 2010, 03:18 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,924 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Our fixture allows a range of bend at the front and I tell my crew to aim for the more bent position. There was a period of time where the person who I had bending the tubes was not bending the front quite enough.
A result of that was the rear end had to be overbent to make the parts fit in the fixture. Your lines look like they may have been made during this period. The front should be bent a little more and protrude just a little further, while the rear end shouldn't come out quite as far before bending back toward the firewall. BTW, we now stock the grommets and fuel tank strainer socks. You could just put pieces of hose around the lines at the engine shelf holes to prevent chafing. |
jcb29 |
Aug 17 2010, 05:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Clovis, CA Member No.: 2,646 Region Association: Central California |
The bends in the SS tubes just aft of the fire wall look the same as on the Tangerine lines I just installed and they will not interfere with anything in the engine bay. You might want to verify the correct location of the two short lines. Either you or I have them installed incorrectly. I mounted my short ones with the 90 bend under the shelf so the straight portions protrudes up through the shelf about 2-3 inches.
Maybe someone from Tangerine could clarify the question of mounting for the short tubes. |
ejm |
Aug 17 2010, 05:30 PM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
You might want to verify the correct location of the two short lines. Either you or I have them installed incorrectly. I mounted my short ones with the 90 bend under the shelf so the straight portions protrudes up through the shelf about 2-3 inches. The pictures show the correct installation of the short lines. |
Lennies914 |
Aug 17 2010, 05:51 PM
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Slacker Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 9-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,216 Region Association: Northern California |
I picked up a roll of heat shrink (black) at HF and used that on all of the bendable tabs. Worked well and looked finished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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jonferns |
Aug 18 2010, 03:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 29-March 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 7,631 Region Association: North East States |
I just twisted and adjusted them inside the tunnel for a while until they sat perfectly, and they eventually pointed more or less where they should be; enough to get a hose and clamp on them.
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