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| dlee6204 |
Aug 31 2010, 08:53 AM
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Howdy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
Before you do ANYTHING, you should sit in the driver's seat and make high revving engine noises while moving the shifter around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) THEN get to work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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| tornik550 |
Aug 31 2010, 09:02 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,248 Joined: 29-January 07 From: Ohio Member No.: 7,486 Region Association: None |
I am absolutely convinced that this is a bumblebee. I say this based on the vin and the paint code. I think the owner will post more info in a little bit.
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| rick 918-S |
Aug 31 2010, 09:10 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21,279 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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| Bristol |
Aug 31 2010, 09:32 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 16-July 09 From: Texarkana, TX Member No.: 10,573 Region Association: None |
I would do what others have recommended on thoroughly going through the brakes and fuel system.
As for the engine, personally I would drop the engine, check that the exhaust and headers are clear, and I would go as far as to remove the heads and oil pan and make sure the pistons, valves, push rods, etc. all operate and turn as they should. A co-worker of mine got a '71 911 Targa from storage like this last year. He's been working on it ever since. The engine ran like crap, but he just tried squirting various things into the cylinders to free them up. Car still smoked and ran rough. Finally, about a week ago it threw a rod and punched a hole in the case - engine is ruined. I think he would have been better off just dropping the engine in the first place and going through it a little more thoroughly. So that is my advice to you. Kirk |
| Tom_T |
Aug 31 2010, 10:36 AM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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All good advice above - don't run the motor until you go through & replace all fuel system lines, etc. - ditto on the brake system.
IMHO - POR15 & similar products just covers up the problems with rust if it hasn't been cut out, converted & replaced with good sheet metal or panels (see Restoration Design for replacement panels). Even if not a Bee, it looks to be in great shape & well worth fixing any rust damage properly to get another 40 years out of her! See the LE info here - it ma be on the registry - http://www.bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/ |
| Rav914 |
Aug 31 2010, 10:57 AM
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All-weather fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 741 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
When I bought my '74, it had been 'stored' or parked for 21 years. Here's what I did:
Dropped motor. Pulled gas tank and cleaned it New rubber fuel lines everywhere All four brake calipers to PMB Performance New stainless brake lines Turned rotors New brake pads New 19mm Master brake cylinder Replaced ALL hoses on FI system Injectors rebuilt by Witchhunter Ignition tune-up New tranny fluid Add'l stuff you may not need: Turned flywheel new clutch kit rebuilt CV's Car fired right up, ran and stop. Plus I'm sure there were quite a few little itmes I'm forgetting. But that's the main stuff for safety. |
| budk |
Aug 31 2010, 11:10 AM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Jasper, TN Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
All good advice above - don't run the motor until you go through & replace all fuel system lines, etc. - ditto on the brake system. IMHO - POR15 & similar products just covers up the problems with rust if it hasn't been cut out, converted & replaced with good sheet metal or panels (see Restoration Design for replacement panels). Even if not a Bee, it looks to be in great shape & well worth fixing any rust damage properly to get another 40 years out of her! See the LE info here - it ma be on the registry - http://www.bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/ It's tough to live in the East and not have some rust issue to deal with on a constant basis. I plan on using por15 on any surface rust that I can, but if I run into a bigger issue it will be time to cut and replace. The CanAm site is the first place I looked. It's not listed there ... not yet anyway. Thanks. |
| strawman |
Aug 31 2010, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California
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It's tough to live in the East and not have some rust issue to deal with on a constant basis. I plan on using por15 on any surface rust that I can, but if I run into a bigger issue it will be time to cut and replace. I am nearing the end of the rustoration of my CA car (they ALL rust if exposed to the elements!), and I agree that proper prep and conversion works best for surface rust / minor pitting and that replacement panels are necessary for rust-through / major pitting. But I don't agree that you'll need to replace EVERY panel that has evidence of rust... these tubs were not galvanized from the factory and I frankly believe that it would be impossible to truly eradicate all rust and/or prevent it completely. There are just too many nooks/crannies/seams to get at it all... Good luck with your project. In hindsight, I really shoulda started with a cleaner tub. Geoff |
| Dr Evil |
Aug 31 2010, 12:27 PM
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,044 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Score, the guy who bought the car is a neighbor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Hi neighbor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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| budk |
Aug 31 2010, 12:48 PM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Jasper, TN Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Score, the guy who bought the car is a neighbor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Hi neighbor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Hey Doc. Good to "talk' to you via email. Hope to see you soon. |
| Dr Evil |
Aug 31 2010, 12:54 PM
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,044 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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20 min away with a nice car to start with. There is not one single thing that we can not do to that car: engine, tranz, fuel, brakes, suspension, steering, wiring, environmental controls, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I think I will be able to save you lots of time and $$ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
| markb |
Aug 31 2010, 01:08 PM
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914less :( ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,450 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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Before you do ANYTHING, you should sit in the driver's seat and make high revving engine noises while moving the shifter around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) THEN get to work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
| RFoulds |
Aug 31 2010, 01:29 PM
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914Rennsport ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 870 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I am doing the same thing. Mine was in storage 22 years.
Fuel tank and fuel lines. Brakes, brake lines and master cylinder. take cap off from timing hole, above th eflywheel, and stick a clean screwdriver in to see if flywheeel turns easily. Mine did, which tells me pistons and rings were not rusted to the cylinder as I feared. |
| budk |
Aug 31 2010, 01:37 PM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Jasper, TN Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
20 min away with a nice car to start with. There is not one single thing that we can not do to that car: engine, tranz, fuel, brakes, suspension, steering, wiring, environmental controls, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think I will be able to save you lots of time and $$ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Sound like fun! |
| SirAndy |
Aug 31 2010, 04:08 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,483 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I plan on using por15 on any surface rust that I can Please don't ... I'm afraid POR-15 does not work quite as advertised. I had very mixed results and i will NOT use it on my car anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy |
| underthetire |
Aug 31 2010, 04:30 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I would do what others have recommended on thoroughly going through the brakes and fuel system. As for the engine, personally I would drop the engine, check that the exhaust and headers are clear, and I would go as far as to remove the heads and oil pan and make sure the pistons, valves, push rods, etc. all operate and turn as they should. A co-worker of mine got a '71 911 Targa from storage like this last year. He's been working on it ever since. The engine ran like crap, but he just tried squirting various things into the cylinders to free them up. Car still smoked and ran rough. Finally, about a week ago it threw a rod and punched a hole in the case - engine is ruined. I think he would have been better off just dropping the engine in the first place and going through it a little more thoroughly. So that is my advice to you. Kirk Can someone point me to the oil pan? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
| Rod |
Aug 31 2010, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
First thing you should do is pull up a deck chair, open a beer and spend a few good minutes just looking at your new purchase!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| windforfun |
Aug 31 2010, 05:40 PM
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First thing you should do is pull up a deck chair, open a beer and spend a few good minutes just looking at your new purchase!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
| scotty b |
Aug 31 2010, 05:51 PM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Do yourself a favor and spend the money to have the gas tank professionaly boiled and sealed. Do not be surprised if they tell you it has pinholes in it. If they do, get the tank back from them and get it to a competent fabricator/welder to have somepatched made, then take it back to be sealed.
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| Ian Stott |
Aug 31 2010, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 907 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Moncton/Canada Member No.: 8,635 Region Association: Canada |
I have a 73 2.0 and it had been stored for quite some time as well, I got the complete hose kit from George at Auto Atlanta, some other gaskets and injector seals, etc., fuel tank reconditioned, new filters,(there is a filter inside the tank sometimes called a sock), bled the brakes a lot til fluid came real clean at each caliper, changed the oil 4 times in the first 2000 miles, new optima battery, played with the idle a lot and am still messing with it! Got new tires, followed all the advice from this group ref rust hunting and have driven over 5000 trouble free miles to date and have thoroughly enjoyed all of them! Welcome to the club! My wife asks when will the car be done, I don't know I just picking away at it, all I know it is getting back to how it was meant to be and I'm not on a deadline.
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