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> OT:Painting Guru's, I know how, but is there a non-messy way to paint a car?
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:30 AM
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Trying to do this on the down-low at home.

Got a T-3 Squareback I wanna paint. Everythings off, so I can do this in little sections/jobs.

Is there a type of gun that doesn't create the cloud of toxic paint over the house?

Low pressure gravity feed?

Any advice would be most helpful!

I've painted a few cars in my life. Some of them even turned out really nice. So the prep and painting isn't an issue. Just the neighbors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:32 AM
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I make a mess no matter what i'm doing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but my gravity feed gun is a lot better than my old suction feed as far as the cloud goes. Also found that a wallyworld box fan with some heater filters to suck the crap out works well.
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:39 AM
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I would suspect that your best bet for 'hiding' would be to paint in a closed garage with a single filtered ventilation path. House HVAC filter should work fine for the particulate, but if you want to reduce the smell you should look into activated charcoal filters.
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:44 AM
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besure your fan is a blow into teh paint area set up, not suck thru, unless the fan is explosion proof, you do not want to pull paint fumes thru it.

the low pressure guns are pretty good, just get the job done fast before anyone can take the time to complain. maybe do it the same day some one has an asphult roofing job near by, that stinks worst.


you might be best just to paint outside on a windless day, get it over with real fast, and be done with it, teh fumes will disappate, hopefully you will be done before any one calls the enviro nazi's on you.
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post Aug 31 2010, 12:02 PM
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With car on jack stands, I raised the garage door up a couple of feet, rigged up a plastic curtain and a fan under the car.

Fan created a downdraft to suck air down and blow out through the bottom of the door. Fumes didnt hit the fan cause it was under the car and the cloud wasn't too thick.

YOU WILL NEED A RESPIRATOR!

Smell wasn't too bad during the process and it dissipates quickly.

I did find that the car itself smelled for a few weeks after it was painted. That turned out to be a bigger problem...
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post Aug 31 2010, 12:24 PM
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Much of it has to do with where I live now compared to where I used to live. Before, I would use a draw gun in our 2 car garage. Just cleaned it all up, put a fan in the door etc. and painted. The neighbors in that area didn't mind, there was also more space between houses.

Now the houses are closer together and it would be harder to hide what I'm doing. I think most wouldn't care, but somebody would.

I may just bag it and rent a paint booth. Big PITA to haul a torn appart car and parts back and forth though.

I'll look into the gravity feed guns. I know a few that have used them, but I haven't ever used one myself.

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Thanks for the ideas!
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:01 PM
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Paint roller......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:19 PM
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The guy that did my interior told me he would help me set up a good "home system" for around 3-400 if you want me to find the specifics for you. He does show car quality stuff so I am guessing his system is still effective.
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(iamchappy @ Aug 31 2010, 12:01 PM) *

Paint roller......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You know, this is for the Monster SB project I've posted here and on thesamba.com

Given it's state of purpose.....I've wondered if I'm wasting time and money actually "Painting" the thing?

Should I just grab 10 cans of rust-o-elum and go to town? I would think that would last about a month before flaking off?
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:27 PM
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You can see there isn't any rust to speak of. I plan on painting the body first, then doors, fenders etc.

I figure if I can get the main body painted, I can put the windows back in, really clean and sort out the interior, then move onto the doors. It's gonna be a winter car, so it's gotta be sealed up.


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post Aug 31 2010, 01:29 PM
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Roller? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

no...btdt

"don't do it!" like the song says...
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:35 PM
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It's best to spray the floor with water - helps keep down the dust and the overspray won't stick to the floor.
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post Aug 31 2010, 01:47 PM
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rolled... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
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I don't have an image of kicking myself in the ass! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Honestly i ended up spraying the car for a total of under $250 in materials.

biggest problem was my wife complaining about the smell; the house is above the garage.

I opened the windows and had the air going when i sprayed.

Watered the floor too! Actual "neighbor" risk was really only for about an hour during the spraying; have to wait between coats. I did it at 10:00am on a workday.
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post Aug 31 2010, 02:54 PM
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The HVLP guns will still make a lot of over spray. Best bet is shoot it late at night or early morning when everyone is sleeping.

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post Aug 31 2010, 04:17 PM
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I thought about the old "Take the day off" thing. Just paint it early in the morning on a weekday. The rainy season is setting in here so that helps to keep the odor down.

I'm just not going to spend $2k on a paint job.

$200 worth of supplies and I can have every little nook and cranny painted on this thing.

If I try it, you know I'll post pictures. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 31 2010, 04:37 PM
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Do you have a thread on this car? More photos please!
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post Aug 31 2010, 06:09 PM
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I've seen boat painters roll paint onto a car. One guy rolls with a foam roller, the other brushes it out with a beavertail brush. Car looked just like new and had a great finish. They used manine enamel too.
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post Aug 31 2010, 07:16 PM
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Check over on the samba for the Tremclad paint roller thread, a guy painted his bus (IIRC) then wet sanded the whole thing.
I'd never do it to my car, but it came out real nice for cheap.
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post Aug 31 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Aug 31 2010, 03:37 PM) *

Do you have a thread on this car? More photos please!


http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...4725744#4725744

Being somewhat of a fabricator myself, I've developed a deep appreciation for the person who went through all the work on this SB. Actually enlarging the wheel wells to accomodate 31 inch tires, box in the front, rear and update to T-2 stuff including an 091 tranny required patience and skill.

I found reciepts for tires dating back into the 90's, the first set was purchased almost 20 years ago, the last set in 2006 I believe? So almost 20 years of running 31 inch tires, wow!

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post Aug 31 2010, 09:25 PM
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I painted a good portion of our Audi under one of those quickshade 12X12 canopies, and I used the cheap painters drop plastic for the walls. If you had two of those to put together, I think it would be a solution to paint an entire car.

http://www.uber-werks.com/albums/a4_repaint/album/index.html


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