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> 911R style tail lamps for the 914, I found the info on who made mine
campbellcj
post Sep 5 2010, 04:56 PM
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There was a thread on this not too long ago but I searched and couldn't find it.

I just pulled mine out of a box -- getting ready to work on the car some more -- and I noticed this marking on the back side of the fiberglass. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) No idea whether he is still in business or still making these parts.

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post Sep 5 2010, 06:00 PM
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So now the trick is to (a) find the right bulbs and (b) figure-out the wiring. Painting and final installation should be the easy part.
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post Sep 5 2010, 06:27 PM
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A search comes back as this. Maybe someone local can check it out.

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post Sep 5 2010, 07:06 PM
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I found info on the bulbs and wiring on the bird board. Project for this week I guess...
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post Sep 5 2010, 07:10 PM
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:44 PM
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I got the lamp assemblies wired-up today and pretty much figured-out everything. I had some trouble sourcing the 18W festoon bulbs locally so I'm going to try LED replacements for the brake lights -- if those work as intended they should be extremely bright and quick to respond. I'm using the smaller 10W bulbs for initial testing.

The other setback is that I just realized my running/parking lights are completely out (no power). They worked last time I fiddled with them to install the euro front turn signal kits, so I bet something came loose up front. It is not a fuse or switch as far as I can tell.

Here are the Hella lamps wired-up. They will plug right into the factory wiring, although I'll have to split the single ground per side into two per side.

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911R Hella tail lamps by cjcam, on Flickr
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post Sep 7 2010, 11:49 AM
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post Sep 7 2010, 01:46 PM
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Whoaaaa, hold on now, lets discuss this more.

That looks good, I like it enough to attempt it in my car, but:

1. Is it streetable? I can see that there is no problem with rear visibility, but what about side visibility? I took my side markers off for flares, so some prevention of side impacts is desirable.

2. Is it easily removable? It looks like it just replaces the original lens, is that correct? I would love to go back easily if I decided I didn't like it.

Do you have more pics? I would like to see inside and some closer shots if you have them.
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post Sep 7 2010, 02:36 PM
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The look isn't for everybody, but is easily reversible. I'm keeping the stock lamp assemblies in case I or a future owner wants to revert back.

Side visibility should be ok since the lamps protrude a bit. However, it may not be a great plan for a mainly street car.
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:10 PM
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I like those! Maybe a smallish flush mount led on the side would make it more side visible.
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post Sep 7 2010, 04:04 PM
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If you add small LED or conventional back up bulbs I see no reason why they wouldn't be street legal. In my opinion the " lense panel " would look better if it is body colored but that is personal preference. I want to do this in the future.
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post Sep 7 2010, 04:28 PM
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I called and talked with Mike Swanson this afternoon. He still makes the 914 R light fixtures.

$170.00 for the fixtures only. (Left & right side)

The fixtures require a little finessing on the leading edge of the fixture where it wraps into the fender.

- hella lights vary from $45 - $60 EACH (4 total) at various dealers.

- Solid color knock offs are available (solid red or soild amber - no split lenses) for about $25.00 each - depending on the number ordered. (These come from an Australian manufacturer.)

BTW - these are the same fixtures that CAMP 914 offered a while ago. Mike said the limiting factor was the cost of the Hella lights (dollar vs. the euro)

Mike said he might be interested in a group buy...
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post Sep 7 2010, 04:32 PM
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Since the DMV does not require vehicle safety inspections in California anymore... I'm sure it's "legal"??? CA only cares about smog now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Not about safety (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Sep 7 2010, 06:37 PM
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While it may not be that important, you need 2 sq in per side of rear facing red flex and 2 in per side of sid efacing red feflex (US spec) I don't think that backup lamps are required in thre US,
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post Sep 7 2010, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(marks914 @ Sep 7 2010, 05:37 PM) *

While it may not be that important, you need 2 sq in per side of rear facing red flex and 2 in per side of sid efacing red feflex (US spec) I don't think that backup lamps are required in thre US,
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Honestly, I think it would take the Highway Patrol way too long to find the violation number in their book to write that one up.

You may come across a newbie with a photographic memory that is just waiting to charge you with a crime, but...

I do believe that our cars are invisible to shitty drivers and the more lighting the better. I can't tell you how many times I have been worried about getting rear ended.

BTW, the picture above of the blue 14 with RS lights is Bitchin!
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:01 PM
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Found these at Rebel racing product's website. 911 R lenses

Made for a 911 R but the split lenses are used.
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:39 PM
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My backup lights were not working before anyway, so no loss there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I am thinking of painting the fiberglass housings grey like my numbers and interior. I think that would look better than body color or black, but time will tell. I'll do some "photoshop" experiments once I get a little closer to final installation.
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:49 PM
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Chris, have you compared the weight of the 'R' assemblies to the original lenses and housings? I assume the factory reason for the 'R' lenses on the 911 was a weight savings, any luck the same applies for our cars? I don't remember seeing pics of 914-6GTs with the lights so maybe the factory stuff is already pretty light.
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Sep 7 2010, 03:32 PM) *

Since the DMV does not require vehicle safety inspections in California anymore... I'm sure it's "legal"??? CA only cares about smog MONEY now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Not about safety (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Fixed it for ya...Calif doesn't really care about smog or whether people on the road actually know how to DRIVE. The gub'mint here just wants our CASH so they can spend it like there's no tomorrow.
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(plays with cars @ Sep 7 2010, 08:49 PM) *

Chris, have you compared the weight of the 'R' assemblies to the original lenses and housings? I assume the factory reason for the 'R' lenses on the 911 was a weight savings, any luck the same applies for our cars? I don't remember seeing pics of 914-6GTs with the lights so maybe the factory stuff is already pretty light.


Not yet, but I will; however, my unscientific opinion is that there's little to no weight savings. The 914 assemblies are pretty light as it is. Apparently some of the 911 assemblies are significantly heavier -- I saw figures of 3-4 lbs per side savings going with R tail lights versus stock on 911's!

I'm just doing it more for fun and uniqueness than weight, but I will note the weight difference when I get a chance. I have been keeping a weight spreadsheet with all parts removed or replaced on the car lately.
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