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Door Jamb VIN |
AndyB |
Sep 8 2010, 03:40 AM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
Does anyone reproduce the drivers side jamb VIN?
Thanks |
carr914 |
Sep 8 2010, 06:43 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,648 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
It's actually called a Compliance Sticker. AA sell the sticker only
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AndyB |
Sep 8 2010, 02:53 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
Any idea on who could do the holes? Thanks
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SirAndy |
Sep 8 2010, 02:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Any idea on who could do the holes? Thanks There was a thread here last year where several people tried different techniques ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
tradisrad |
Sep 8 2010, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I made one of these. AA told me that a bank may be able to punch the holes. I did not go that route.
With the help of a friend and his milling machine we made a template. We measured the factory punch marks from center to center and then we took those numbers to his mill and drilled a grid. I then took a glue needle and sharpened the tip on some sand paper and I used the hollow needle to cut/punch the holes into the sticker. It was near perfect. BUT, the sticker sucked; after a few months the top started to delaminate from the bottom of the sticker where the holes were cut. the needle was similar to this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/equipment.loctite.com-6815-1283980686.1.jpg) |
AndyB |
Sep 8 2010, 03:21 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Thanks for the input.
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carr914 |
Sep 9 2010, 07:51 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,648 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I've done one, and won't do anymore, as it's a major pain the ass and easy to make a mistake.
There is a guy on the EarlyS Board that sells Stickers and a Bioposy Tool to do the the semi-circles Original ( glad I had a picture) Here is my Sticker - Not Perfect, but better than nothing - Damn flunkie at the body shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
nsr-jamie |
Sep 10 2010, 12:11 PM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
I need this sticker too. When the bodyshop repainted my car last year they were kind enough to remove the sticker and paint the door jambs, the car turned out nice but I am missing that sticker and would like to get a new one and need to have my numbers done right...
Does a milling machine work alright? I have no idea what the AA material looks like but could make a a CAM program to use on CNC machines at work. Or how about a laser cutting tool....I have access to these too... |
914werke |
Sep 10 2010, 12:16 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,062 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Do a search on old threads by me or Partsman (i think) still available new from Porsche/dealer network. I got one for my Resto.
Kinda spendy & supposedly slightly different from the orig. but at least a solution |
tradisrad |
Sep 10 2010, 12:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
the mill was used to make a template (grid) and the sharpened hollow needle was used to punch the holes through the grid template and into the sticker.
a laser cutting tool may work, but will it melt the sticker? |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 10 2010, 12:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,858 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
we have several guys in years past use a check canceling machine to perfectly punch our reproduction stickers. Cannot tell from the original!
Always when getting into the door jamb with paint we HAVE to remove the sticker for a perfect job |
Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 10 2010, 01:05 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
In California, and it may be true in other states, removing/replacing/whatever any VIN bearing ID plate or sticker on the car, even if it's your own car, even if you've owned it from new and plan to never sell it, is a serious offense. I'd sure check with the authorities in your state, or any state to which you plan to move (or in which you plan to drive) before I did this. You get a cop that doesn't like your sticker, and you could be a very miserable person ......................
The Cap'n |
bandjoey |
Sep 10 2010, 01:33 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If it's a perfect sticker and the vin matches who's to know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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tradisrad |
Sep 10 2010, 01:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
In California, and it may be true in other states, removing/replacing/whatever any VIN bearing ID plate or sticker on the car, even if it's your own car, even if you've owned it from new and plan to never sell it, is a serious offense. I'd sure check with the authorities in your state, or any state to which you plan to move (or in which you plan to drive) before I did this. You get a cop that doesn't like your sticker, and you could be a very miserable person ...................... The Cap'n Hmmm, A DMV official looked at my sticker and I had no problems. I must have had my paper work in order with the "t"s crossed. So, if I have my car painted by Miracle and they remove the sticker to to paint my door jamb who is responsible? And what cop is going to be inspecting my door jamb sticker; if they check they look at the window tag. |
914werke |
Sep 10 2010, 01:47 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,062 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(SCOFF)
When was last time you were ever stopped by a MOTL to have him compare your registration to the VIN of the vehicle? Come on Cap'n! spare us the FUD |
carr914 |
Sep 10 2010, 02:36 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,648 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
In California, and it may be true in other states, removing/replacing/whatever any VIN bearing ID plate or sticker on the car, even if it's your own car, even if you've owned it from new and plan to never sell it, is a serious offense. I'd sure check with the authorities in your state, or any state to which you plan to move (or in which you plan to drive) before I did this. You get a cop that doesn't like your sticker, and you could be a very miserable person ...................... The Cap'n 1st of all, these Stickers are only for US cars. Jamie in Japan, you don't need it. 2nd, If you find a Cop that knows where every Number is on a 40 year old car, he is a Genius and shouldn't be on the Beat. I had a 1988 Porsche 911 that somehow in the Titling process the Numbers got screwed up. I had to go the DMV Regional office Twice. They finally figured out where the numbers were supposed to be, But they had had all the wrong numbers - the motor # they said should be in my car was a 1979 number |
AndyB |
Sep 10 2010, 02:43 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
So if I am to understand the Cap'n let the driver side door jamb rust through and never touch it and you will be good to go? Unfortunatley when trying to restore the drivers side door jamb which has been eatin alive by salt because we have it in abundance in Northern New York something has to give and the decal looses
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jk76.914 |
Sep 10 2010, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
the mill was used to make a template (grid) and the sharpened hollow needle was used to punch the holes through the grid template and into the sticker. a laser cutting tool may work, but will it melt the sticker? I'm set up to try a laser cutting tool. I created the hole pattern in Visio, and a guy in the shop duplicated it in SolidWorks. I burned a sample in plain mylar, and it came out pretty well. It needs to be scaled down a bit to be perfect, but that's trivial. I expect to get back to it and try an actual sticker in the next few weeks. Here's the image I ended up with in Visio- sn_drawing.pdf ( 73.63k ) Number of downloads: 171 The sticker is a scan (.jpg) that I imported into Visio. My car is red, BTW, so I made the dots and the background red. Once I get to it, I'll post the finished sticker. Probably in the next few weeks. |
AndyB |
Sep 10 2010, 03:40 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
the mill was used to make a template (grid) and the sharpened hollow needle was used to punch the holes through the grid template and into the sticker. a laser cutting tool may work, but will it melt the sticker? I'm set up to try a laser cutting tool. I created the hole pattern in Visio, and a guy in the shop duplicated it in SolidWorks. I burned a sample in plain mylar, and it came out pretty well. It needs to be scaled down a bit to be perfect, but that's trivial. I expect to get back to it and try an actual sticker in the next few weeks. Here's the image I ended up with in Visio- sn_drawing.pdf ( 73.63k ) Number of downloads: 171 The sticker is a scan (.jpg) that I imported into Visio. My car is red, BTW, so I made the dots and the background red. Once I get to it, I'll post the finished sticker. Probably in the next few weeks. Jim that looks awesome let me know when you have the finished product I would love to see it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
jk76.914 |
Sep 10 2010, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
the mill was used to make a template (grid) and the sharpened hollow needle was used to punch the holes through the grid template and into the sticker. a laser cutting tool may work, but will it melt the sticker? I'm set up to try a laser cutting tool. I created the hole pattern in Visio, and a guy in the shop duplicated it in SolidWorks. I burned a sample in plain mylar, and it came out pretty well. It needs to be scaled down a bit to be perfect, but that's trivial. I expect to get back to it and try an actual sticker in the next few weeks. Here's the image I ended up with in Visio- sn_drawing.pdf ( 73.63k ) Number of downloads: 171 The sticker is a scan (.jpg) that I imported into Visio. My car is red, BTW, so I made the dots and the background red. Once I get to it, I'll post the finished sticker. Probably in the next few weeks. Will do. I'm traveling this week, so maybe the next week. BTW, the blank sticker is from AA. Jim that looks awesome let me know when you have the finished product I would love to see it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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