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TomR |
Sep 16 2010, 05:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 29-August 10 From: delaware Member No.: 12,117 Region Association: None |
Proud new owner of a '73 914. Car only came with one ignition key. Have had trouble finding anyone who will make a copy. Can get blanks on ebay, but they don't do me much good if nobody can copy it. Haven't tried a porsche dealer yet, but I'm thinking they would be pretty pricey & not sure how much vintage stuff they handle. Any help would be great.
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Joe Owensby |
Sep 16 2010, 06:50 PM
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JoeO Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Spartanburg, SC Member No.: 5,385 Region Association: South East States |
If it is for a 914, just take the new blank along with your current key to a place that cuts keys. No problem getting a copy. JoeO
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underthetire |
Sep 16 2010, 06:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I know the old school VW shop here has the blanks and makes them, have you tried a aircooled VW shop.
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SLITS |
Sep 16 2010, 08:30 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I have a cutting machine and cut them all the time. Unfortunately, I am on the other side of Amerika ....
Anybody with a machine can cut them, but the blanks are STUPIDLY expensive. Fark Porsche! |
benalishhero |
Sep 16 2010, 08:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
Check with a local dealer first. Mine had blanks. Reasonable price too.
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Mike Bellis |
Sep 16 2010, 08:56 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
You need to find a real locksmith! Not Home Depot or a hardware store. It will be no problem. Just buy blanks.
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Tom_T |
Sep 17 2010, 09:19 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
You need to find a real locksmith! Not Home Depot or a hardware store. It will be no problem. Just buy blanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... my local locksmith does them, as well as for my other 3 old cars. BTW - they sell both aftermarket non-branded plastic handled keys (no "PORSCHE" on it) & the OEM Porsche style (same as for 911/912/930 of that era) at AA, PP, Pelican, etc. I don't like the metal handled generic VW/Porsche blanks cuz you can't tell the valet (red) key from the full function (black) one. IMHO, the $5+/- each for repro blanks (red or black) or $15+/- each for genuine Porsche key blanks (red or black - IMHO it's worth the real look) is worth it to me, compared to the $1000's I've sunk & more to sink into my 914! |
type47 |
Sep 17 2010, 10:07 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I've got a good plan for your early enthusiasm: Go to the Hershey swap meet put on by the Cenn Penn (I think) region of PCA around the end of April every year. There is a fellow there who cuts keys for about $12 for repro red and black keys.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 17 2010, 10:23 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
It's important that a good master be made. On an old car, that means making a key from the number on the lock. The best place to get that number is from the ignition switch or the trunk lock under the dash. If you don't have a number, then have the locksmith "read" the trunk lock. It's gonna be the least used lock in the car. Once you have a master key, make all duplicates from that, and put it away where you won't use, or lose, it. If your locks don't match, have them rekeyed so they do. Mark Britell does this, and any good locksmith can, too. There's a Porsche key guy in Philadelphia, and he's probably the best there is. I don't remember his name, but I'm sure I could find it if I have to. Scratch that, here's a link. Ain't Google wunnerful?
http://www.lockandkeyid.com/ The Cap'n |
underthetire |
Sep 17 2010, 10:32 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Don't know if it's correct, but the key that I have for my ignition is a ilco VW71, a poorkey? 946 for glove box/trunk, and door is a SilcaPW1. Obviously I don't have original keys.
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jeffdon |
Sep 17 2010, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet?
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underthetire |
Sep 17 2010, 10:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet? Looking at my keys, it is in the cut. But I can not attest to what my car went through with PO's. |
bandjoey |
Sep 17 2010, 10:47 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original
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Drums66 |
Sep 17 2010, 11:16 AM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
...What everybody said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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markb |
Sep 17 2010, 01:28 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet? Yes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 17 2010, 04:15 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original I've never seen a key code printed, stamped, or otherwise written in an owners manual. The whole idea is to keep it a secret, and having it in a manual in the car kinda negates the whole plan. They were on a card attached to the keys, IIRC. The Cap'n |
914four |
Sep 17 2010, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 4-March 07 From: Rainbow City, Alabama Member No.: 7,582 Region Association: South East States |
It's important that a good master be made. On an old car, that means making a key from the number on the lock. The best place to get that number is from the ignition switch or the trunk lock under the dash. If you don't have a number, then have the locksmith "read" the trunk lock. It's gonna be the least used lock in the car. Once you have a master key, make all duplicates from that, and put it away where you won't use, or lose, it. If your locks don't match, have them rekeyed so they do. Mark Britell does this, and any good locksmith can, too. There's a Porsche key guy in Philadelphia, and he's probably the best there is. I don't remember his name, but I'm sure I could find it if I have to. Scratch that, here's a link. Ain't Google wunnerful? http://www.lockandkeyid.com/ The Cap'n This is very good information as usual Cap'n. Thanks! Kelvin |
Drums66 |
Sep 18 2010, 11:34 AM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original I've never seen a key code printed, stamped, or otherwise written in an owners manual. The whole idea is to keep it a secret, and having it in a manual in the car kinda negates the whole plan. They were on a card attached to the keys, IIRC. The Cap'n ssshhhhshhhhsssssshhhh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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