 Something interesting under my dash vinyl, German speakers take a look... |
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| ConeDodger |
 Oct 3 2010, 02:46 PM
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Apex killer!  Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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While I have my windshield out I thought I would redo the dash vinyl and install some tweeters in that space forward of the dash. The old vinyl ripped right off but left the pad under it adhered to the metal. I used a wire wheel on a cordless drill to rip the pad off and leave me with a surface I could glue the new pad to.
When I did, I found this... Looks like it says Powieug elle? The blue around the surface is masking tape so I can glue without worrying about getting contact cement on the body surfaces. I have found Japanese Kanji symbols under the dashboards of Datsun Z cars I have had but this is the first I have heard of this. Attached image(s) 
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| rohar |
Oct 3 2010, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
tough to read from the pic, still haven't figured out the first part but you sure it doesn't end with "elbe"?
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| rohar |
Oct 3 2010, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Crap, the end seems to be gelbe, "Yellow". That might make sense given the color of the dash (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Still trying to figure out the first word.
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| johannes |
Oct 3 2010, 03:12 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
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| rohar |
Oct 3 2010, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Sommergelbe in really crappy hand writing? It was an available paint color in '75
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| johannes |
Oct 3 2010, 03:20 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
QUOTE(rohar @ Oct 3 2010, 01:13 PM)  Sommergelbe in really crappy hand writing? It was an available paint color in '75 Sonnengelb ... not sommergelbe ... L13K from 1973 to 1976 ... ... |
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| johannes |
Oct 3 2010, 03:26 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
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| Sleepin |
Oct 3 2010, 03:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,647 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Grand Junction, Co. Member No.: 8,357 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 3 2010, 03:33 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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The car is a '75 but it isn't yellow. It is Diamond Silver Metallic. Thanks for your effort so far. The sub structure of the dash was yellow and black.
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| rohar |
Oct 3 2010, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
I've got a '75 and the windshield's out waithing for me to recover the same area. Strangely, that's the only spot I hadn't pulled the foam off. Just ran out to the garage and removed it (rubbed it with my thumb to be carefull unless something was written there). Nothin. Plain white paint. The car is an L31M (Scarlet Red).
Bizarre. Hanz screwin with ya? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 3 2010, 07:59 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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I don't think you have to be careful. I used a wire wheel on a cordless drill to rip out the foam and prep the surface. The writing survived that! I am sure it has been there since the car was new. The windshield was original with the California emission sticker still in place. The dash vinyl cannot be replaced correctly without removing the windshield.
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| SirAndy |
Oct 3 2010, 08:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(johannes @ Oct 3 2010, 02:26 PM) Sonnengelb is summer yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It reads "Sonnengelb" ... L13K - Sunflower Yellow or Summer Yellow, depending on the year. The dash color is almost never the same as the car color. For some reason, someone decided to write down the color of the dash on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 3 2010, 08:10 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 3 2010, 06:07 PM) QUOTE(johannes @ Oct 3 2010, 02:26 PM) Sonnengelb is summer yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It reads "Sonnengelb" ... L13K - Sunflower Yellow or Summer Yellow, depending on the year. The dash color is almost never the same as the car color. For some reason, someone decided to write down the color of the dash on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy Cool! I have an autographed dash color!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 4 2010, 12:07 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Sleepin @ Oct 3 2010, 01:30 PM) hmmm.... My car: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i171.photobucket.com-8357-1286141427.1.jpg) Nice... I am going to have some work done on mine by North Hollywood. Maybe I will write Yopu on them before I install... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
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| stewteral |
Oct 4 2010, 10:37 AM
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Old Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 4-December 07 From: Camarillo, CA Member No.: 8,424 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 3 2010, 01:46 PM) While I have my windshield out I thought I would redo the dash vinyl and install some tweeters in that space forward of the dash. The old vinyl ripped right off but left the pad under it adhered to the metal. I used a wire wheel on a cordless drill to rip the pad off and leave me with a surface I could glue the new pad to. When I did, I found this... Looks like it says Powieug elle? The blue around the surface is masking tape so I can glue without worrying about getting contact cement on the body surfaces. I have found Japanese Kanji symbols under the dashboards of Datsun Z cars I have had but this is the first I have heard of this. Hey ConeDodger, I sent your photo to my brother who had 4 years of German in school and here is what he thinks it says: My German is old & unpracticed. It does look like “Sonnengelb” which would be “Sun Yellow”. I don’t know how the writer is getting “ Summer Yellow” from that because “summer” is “Sommer” Given the color of the panel, this seems to fit. BTW: I also had a german car with a hidden note: it was a Audi Coupe and when I pulled the door panel, the window lift motor had a masking tape tag that read: "Very Noisy." Ah, you gotta' love that Audi quality control! Best, Terry |
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| johannes |
Oct 4 2010, 10:46 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
QUOTE(stewteral @ Oct 4 2010, 08:37 AM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 3 2010, 01:46 PM) While I have my windshield out I thought I would redo the dash vinyl and install some tweeters in that space forward of the dash. The old vinyl ripped right off but left the pad under it adhered to the metal. I used a wire wheel on a cordless drill to rip the pad off and leave me with a surface I could glue the new pad to. When I did, I found this... Looks like it says Powieug elle? The blue around the surface is masking tape so I can glue without worrying about getting contact cement on the body surfaces. I have found Japanese Kanji symbols under the dashboards of Datsun Z cars I have had but this is the first I have heard of this. Hey ConeDodger, I sent your photo to my brother who had 4 years of German in school and here is what he thinks it says: My German is old & unpracticed. It does look like “Sonnengelb” which would be “Sun Yellow”. I don’t know how the writer is getting “ Summer Yellow” from that because “summer” is “Sommer” Given the color of the panel, this seems to fit. BTW: I also had a german car with a hidden note: it was a Audi Coupe and when I pulled the door panel, the window lift motor had a masking tape tag that read: "Very Noisy." Ah, you gotta' love that Audi quality control! Best, Terry Sure it is "Sonnengelb" ... but I made an error by translating to english ... Of course it is "sun yellow" and not "summer yellow" (my bad) here http://www.roadglue.com/wiki/index.php?title=Exterior_color ... Andy is german, and I was born in Germany and speak german too... ... |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 4 2010, 11:06 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(stewteral @ Oct 4 2010, 09:37 AM) I don’t know how the writer is getting “ Summer Yellow” from that because “summer” is “Sommer” Because "Sonnengelb" has the paint code of L13K, which was called "Summer Yellow" for the american market by Porsche (or VW?) ... I never said the literal translation of Sonnengelb was Summer Yellow. However, Summer Yellow is the official english name of L13K. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=colors L13K has two english different names, depending on the year: Code - Year - German - English L13K - 73/74 - Sonnengelb - Sunflower Yellow L13K - 75/76 - Sonnengelb - Summer Yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
Oct 4 2010, 11:17 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 4 2010, 12:14 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 4 2010, 09:17 AM) It even looks like the same handwriting! |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 4 2010, 12:27 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 4 2010, 11:14 AM) QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 4 2010, 09:17 AM) It even looks like the same handwriting! Not really ... The 'n' is completely different. Plus, in McMarks link, each letter is written independently with no connection between letters. In the image in this thread, the whole word is written as one with many letters connected. The overall style is the same. It's called "Schönschrift" which is what was taught in school in those days ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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