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> Bee Jay's 914-six Conversion, The car just burned down!
Bee Jay
post Jan 4 2011, 10:07 PM
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I got my wire harness back from Perry Kiel today. Excellent job Perry. It wasn't cheap, but quality costs. Check it out. Now I can permanantly mount my shroud and alternator and fan. I may need a little help wiring the alternator.
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post Jan 4 2011, 10:52 PM
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Wow, the harness looks great. That is what I need next. Where would one locate Perry?

Here are a few random threads I have saved recently for the same reason you are inquiring. Some are more useful than others:

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post Jan 5 2011, 11:43 AM
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Yep, Perry is the man. I see you did what I did and had him include the MSD wiring into the harness. I love that there will not be a pile of random wires in the engine compartment. He also included the wiring for my Pertronix - all color coded perfectly.
His harnesses really are a work of art.

Right before Christmas I was able to finally do the final install of my shroud and intakes as well. That felt really good.

Good luck with the project. I like reading your thread (I am too lazy to take pics of my own!!)
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post Jan 5 2011, 12:49 PM
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Quick question, what's this wiring harness for? Is it just for the alternator etc, or is it for more stuff. It sure looks neat and tidy!

Just wondering if I need to contact him as well.
Still not sure about what ignition and/or MSD I need on my carb'd 2.7 CIS engine.
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post Jan 5 2011, 01:06 PM
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It is for everything in the engine compartment, as well as the starter wiring, and reverse lights. It plugs right into the main plug on the factory harness after the relay board is removed - well, at least mine does. Perry builds them based on your specific needs. I my case, he even went through where things were going to be mounted in the engine compartment, as well as little details like the best way to route the temp gauge wiring. Very cool product - totally worth it. I hope I dont screw it up when I do my final install!
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Bee Jay
post Jan 5 2011, 01:29 PM
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I asked for help too soon. I opened up Perry's invoice this morning so that I could mail him a check, and there are two full pages of complete instructions. It tells me where every wire, by color, should go. As you can see, most of the connectors are labeled. I sent him an oily dryed up and brittle mess, and he sent me a like new, good looking harness. Perry is the man for wire harness'.
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post Jan 5 2011, 05:56 PM
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Hi Guys, I did my 81 3.0 conversion a few years ago, here a few comments/suggestions, hope they are useful.

Fuel Delivery- I went to carbs bc my CIS system was not as complete as I originally thought and you are limited to upgrades (and carbs are sexy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) ). Also I was worried that with an all original CIS system it could be prone to failures over the years. (however I know that CIS can be reliable).

I do love the carbs, but my preference would be a motronic system, which unfortunately can't be installed on a 3.0 without milling the heads. I believe this system would give better low end torq, reliability and efficiency, probably be less stinky too... The carbs are very reliable the only problem is the occasional idle jet clogging, which can be solved with a very clean fuel and air system.

Cam- I had my cams re-ground by http://www.drcamshafts.com/911profiles.htm, I am very happy with them, I went with the dc19 grind. A little more aggressive than the 964 but works with cis and cis pistons.

Mileage- I typically get 15-17 mpg, 20 on the highway. Its fine for me since I don’t put a ton of mileage on the car. I also started tuning the carbs with the air screws one turn out, I had read somewhere that this will give you better mileage.

Tuning- I don’t remember all my jets off hand (they are close to what’s posted here). But I run 55 idle jets, with 60's for some reason it seemed to run to rich, not sure why as some people run 65's must be the tuning and year of motor... Also I had my dizzy re-curved by rennsport in Oregon, I highly recommend them, very knowledgeable.

Overall the car sounds great, motor looks good and is a blast to drive.

Good Luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


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Bee Jay
post Jan 8 2011, 02:01 PM
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I need help afterall. Here is my alternator. Do I have it mounted correctly. I assumed it belonged with the print right side up and regulator up. Correct???
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Next, I'm hooking up Perry's beautiful wire harness to the alternator. It came with a slim blue wire, and a fat black wire. I did not take the alternator out, so I have no pictures of before. Do I have it right?????
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Also, I don't have the alternator to ground strap, but I can build one easily. Where does it hook up?
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post Jan 8 2011, 07:20 PM
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check your belt alignment , you may have a mismatch fanhousing / alternator.
I believe it is upisde down, but really does not matter, You may have to notch the air cone that goes on back. The ground attaches to one of the six alternator bolts.
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Bee Jay
post Jan 11 2011, 12:53 AM
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The voltage regulator needed to be inverted and I needed to create a ground wire. I'm ready to install the fan shroud.
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post Jan 17 2011, 12:06 AM
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First, my welding sucks eggs, big time. So, now that you know that, the motor mount is in. First I bolted it in with six grade eight bolts to 100 ft lbs of torque. The Captain, John Larson, and Gill Paszek instisted that the motor mount still needed to be welded in, so I welded it in. Did I mention my welding sucks. Well, it's welded in really good, it's just not so pretty. But this motor mount isn't going anywhere.
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post Jan 17 2011, 06:10 PM
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How did you get your engine so clean? Looks great!
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post Jan 31 2011, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 17 2011, 04:10 PM) *

How did you get your engine so clean? Looks great!

I used a gasoline/kerosene mix, wire brush wheels on my cordless drill, and lots of compressed air. Be sure to plug the intake and exhaust ports with paper towels.
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post Jan 31 2011, 12:12 AM
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I got something in the mail last week. It's my 901 to 3.0 flywheel from Kennedy Engineering. They do good work. The flywheel came with bolts.
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Also, while in LA last week, I stopped by Earl's plumbing to pick up a couple of 3/4' to -12 adapters for my Velios oil tank.
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The only thing I acomplished this weekend was to adjust the valves, so that I can gasket the valve covers in place. I got the hang of it once I bent my .004" feeler gage 90 degrees. I can't imagine doing this with the engine in the car. All valves were loose. I'm about ready to install the engine except a few items I need to find and buy. Any help in locating these items would be very much appreciated.

engine tin/fiberglass block off plates, since I am not running heat.
a single belt crank pulley to replace the two belt pulley I have
a set of Webber Carbs, manifolds, and linkage
a 914-6 side shifter straight linkage bar
and a few other things I can't think of or don't know I need yet.
I wish I had the talent and time to work on my very basic 3.0 liter six conversion that ankelbiter has. I'd finish the car this weekend. I still hope to have this running by summer.
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post Feb 5 2011, 11:50 PM
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The Oil Tank is in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) What a PAIN IN THE ASS. I know, Porsche made it easy, just cut holes that are marked, then slip in the oil tank. Sounds really easy huh? Anyways, after all day, the oil tank is in.
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:22 PM
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Look at what came in the mail today from Mark Epstien. Heater block off plates. I expected used up, beat up, oily, need painting tin. What arrived was practically new and so clean, so I just bolted them on. One is tin, the other is fiberglass. I think I will take them off and paint red to match the shroud. Thanks Mark. A pleasure doing business with you. Now as you can see, I need an alternator pulley half, nut, key, and shims. I'm almost ready to bolt the engine to the tranny.
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:36 PM
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Looking great! I am close enough, I hope i get to see it in person some day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:11 PM
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Looking good. Make sure you get the correct fan pulley. In case you weren't aware, the stock sizes for an early SC engine with the 226mm fan are 134mm for the crank pulley and 84mm for the fan pulley. This will give you a ratio of 1.8:1.
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:12 PM
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by the way, what did you use on your fan strap to get that nice finish?
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post Feb 11 2011, 08:04 AM
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[quote name='Bee Jay' date='Feb 10 2011, 10:22 PM' post='1429772']
Look at what came in the mail today from Mark Epstien. Heater block off plates. I expected used up, beat up, oily, need painting tin. What arrived was practically new and so clean, so I just bolted them on. One is tin, the other is fiberglass. I think I will take them off and paint red to match the shroud. Thanks Mark. A pleasure doing business with you. Now as you can see, I need an alternator pulley half, nut, key, and shims. I'm almost ready to bolt the engine to the tranny.
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