 My Rotary to suby swap! The saga begins page 6, Test fitting the suby- Intake flip issues? |
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| Ductech |
 Apr 4 2011, 12:42 PM
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Hey J rust I guess i'll throw my .02 cents at you. I built a bracket similar to what you bought. that bracket is basically a stock subaru bracket with oem belt tensioner off the ac side of the system. I built mine so the alternator would sit up a couple inches higher thusly allowing the use of the iac. I would suggest keeping the iac unless your going over to a megasquirt or other aftermarket tuning device. Iac works well with the stock FI computer. helps make it so your motor always tries to maintain its idle speed. great for those northwest winter mornings..... If your up to fab some i would say mod that bracket you bought or the one that came on the motor and make it better.... dont let outfront force you to get rid of more oem FI components.
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| JRust |
Apr 4 2011, 06:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Yeah I took the alternator off. I am going to get the intake back on then see where it needs to sit. I'd rather keep the AIR in it's stock spot. Looks like some of the hard fuel line is hitting the water shroud on top also. Guess the intake flip isn't such a simple thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Half tempted to just cut the hole in the trunk to rout it & keep it stock. I'll keep trying to get it figured this week. If I'm still having trouble I'll just put it back & cut the hole to route it.
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Apr 4 2011, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States 
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I left the intake mounted to the rear. this way I could use my AC compessor in the stock location. A car without AC down here is almost unusable in the summer.
Thats what my car is down for now adding, AC and a few other things Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| Ductech |
Apr 4 2011, 07:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 16-July 10 From: AridZona Member No.: 11,949 Region Association: Southwest Region |
As bigkat states its about what you plan for the future too. I dont like cutting up the car if possible so i switched the intake around. the Fuel lines only need to be bent slightly to clear the water neck. I think its better in the long run to flip it but that is my opinion. I wouldn't take my word as the allmighty answer my conversion just got running the other day and has about 20 miles on it.... im finding problems that come with a chassis that hasn't rolled down the road in ten years more than problems with my motor install.
Good luck and trust me i love the acceleration and smoothness of this motor setup. |
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| JRust |
Apr 5 2011, 10:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Ductech @ Apr 4 2011, 06:56 PM)  As bigkat states its about what you plan for the future too. I dont like cutting up the car if possible so i switched the intake around. the Fuel lines only need to be bent slightly to clear the water neck. I think its better in the long run to flip it but that is my opinion. I wouldn't take my word as the allmighty answer my conversion just got running the other day and has about 20 miles on it.... im finding problems that come with a chassis that hasn't rolled down the road in ten years more than problems with my motor install. Good luck and trust me i love the acceleration and smoothness of this motor setup. I messed with it some more tonight. Yeah the fuel lines bend a little & no problem there. Still am hitting a post on the bottom of tha manifold. It hits one of the bolts on the water line. Also the oil feeler kneck wants to hang up that side too. I think it will be fine once it is bolted in place. Just the more I mess with it the more problems I seem to run into. I am more tempted to just put it back stock & cut the hole in the trunk I need. Just frustrated some tonight |
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Apr 6 2011, 12:01 AM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
Work the bugs out Jamie! I have a line (was told yesterday) on a couple of WRX motors. I don't know what year but STI was also thrown around. I just may change from a 6 conversion to a Subie. When I hear more I will be calling you.
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| ch914er |
Apr 13 2011, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:44 AM) I left the intake mounted to the rear. this way I could use my AC compessor in the stock location. A car without AC down here is almost unusable in the summer. Thats what my car is down for now adding, AC and a few other things Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Hi Bob, are there any pics or documentation on your car???? I want to swap a 3,3 in my 914 too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Greetings Chris |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Apr 13 2011, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(ch914er @ Apr 13 2011, 12:02 PM) QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:44 AM) I left the intake mounted to the rear. this way I could use my AC compessor in the stock location. A car without AC down here is almost unusable in the summer. Thats what my car is down for now adding, AC and a few other things Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Hi Bob, are there any pics or documentation on your car???? I want to swap a 3,3 in my 914 too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Greetings Chris PM sent........... Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| JRust |
Apr 13 2011, 01:52 PM
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Okay I haven't worked on it much. I will be some tommorow night. I will either have the intake on flipped or put back to stock. Either way I have stalled long enough. Funny how seemingly little things can stall things for a month (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| Mike Bellis |
Apr 13 2011, 06:13 PM
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Apr 13 2011, 08:57 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
Cant be any worse than what I was just told. I was trying to do my own valve adjustment for the first time about a week ago. I finally got as close as I could but it still ran crappy, like it was running on 3 cylinders. So I took it to a garage that had worked on it before. He told me today that number 4 is dead! No compression. He put a little oil down the hole and the compression registered but no cigar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
So, no car for me at WCR! This sucks!!!! So Lola will go back in the garage, put up on jackstands, motor and trans pulled and the mild resto will begin! Will be looking for 2.0 stuff! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) |
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| JRust |
Apr 13 2011, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(montoya 73 2.0 @ Apr 13 2011, 07:57 PM) Cant be any worse than what I was just told. I was trying to do my own valve adjustment for the first time about a week ago. I finally got as close as I could but it still ran crappy, like it was running on 3 cylinders. So I took it to a garage that had worked on it before. He told me today that number 4 is dead! No compression. He put a little oil down the hole and the compression registered but no cigar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) So, no car for me at WCR! This sucks!!!! So Lola will go back in the garage, put up on jackstands, motor and trans pulled and the mild resto will begin! Will be looking for 2.0 stuff! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) Dude you have a motor. I bet it has better compresion that the one in your car. I'm sure it leaks but you can get it in for a temporary fix. |
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Apr 13 2011, 10:26 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
Two quarts of water poured out of that motor along with the oil. It's sitting on the pallet covered by a tarp and snow, with Trans oil and diesel fuel in it right now. When the snow melts, I will put it on the stand and start dissecting.
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| JRust |
Apr 16 2011, 09:16 PM
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I finally got the intake swapped. It's temporarily bolted in place. Going to have to build a different mount for the alternator so I can keep the AIR. Basically just moving it further to the right. Not a ton of progress there but it was something (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| hot_shoe914 |
Apr 16 2011, 09:20 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
The status on the V8? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| JRust |
Apr 17 2011, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(hot_shoe914 @ Apr 16 2011, 08:20 PM) It's coming along nicely! Suspension ear is finally back in. I just need to clean up the battery tray area. Prime it & repaint (just keeping it black like before). I'll be working on it all week. Then the drivetrain goes back in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) . Back to the suby though. Ian is making me a new alternator mount. The adjust ment piece to it I think we may put in the engine bay. The alternator is flipped over on the drivers side. It will be a pain to manufacture the piece needed for the adjustment coming off the motor. Ian had the idea of once in place it would be east to add one coming off the car. Makes sense & will be simple. So this is on the agenda for next weekend. |
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| Mike Bellis |
Apr 17 2011, 09:30 AM
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Jamie, This thread needs more pictures. Keep up the good work!
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| IM101 |
Apr 22 2011, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(Ductech @ Apr 4 2011, 11:42 AM) If your up to fab some i would say mod that bracket you bought or the one that came on the motor and make it better... dont let outfront force you to get rid of more oem FI components. QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 17 2011, 08:30 AM) Jamie, This thread needs more pictures. Keep up the good work! Done and done! I may be able to spin by and drop it off tonight. Ill let you know Jamie... but in the mean time, an example of how to extend a bracket while maintaining its alignment. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1199.photobucket.com-12367-1303519362.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1199.photobucket.com-12367-1303519362.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1199.photobucket.com-12367-1303519362.3.jpg) |
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| JRust |
Apr 22 2011, 07:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Excellent! That will work great
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