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> My Rotary to suby swap! The saga begins page 6, Test fitting the suby- Intake flip issues?
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post Oct 26 2010, 02:24 PM
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Jamie needs this shirt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)


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no problem i will print a doz up,......place your orders (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 02:25 PM
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Okay so this is my latest find. This is a 74 with a 13b Rotary motor that was built by Racing Beat in CA. Looks like they were in Anneheim. Not sure if they are still around. Guy bought it in similar condition to selling it. When he bought it the motor had overheated. He took it to Racing beat & had it completely rebuilt. Said it was pushing 220hp but only got 5mpg. I know rotary's came in rx-7's for the most part. Thats about the extent of my knowledge of the rotary. The guy has had this sitting in his garage since 99 when it overheated on him. He said it won't run but will turn over. I'll get more detailed pics of the fron radiator setup with oil cooler. Take a look at the motor pics. Defintely looks to have been a pretty hot motor. Kind of figuring to go Suby with the TDI conversion as a possibility.

Anyone looking for a project I have like 3 cars I will be getting rid of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

Anyway take alook at the pics & let me know what you think. Paint code is l64k which is a forest green. Obviously it was repainted some shade of red/orange


Can you take some photos of the motor mounts, and rad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 03:19 PM
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When I saw the pic of the radiator setup they used, my first thought was, "that ain't gonna work." Too bad they didn't go with a Renegade-style setup with an adequate radiator.

Damn shame they smoked that Racing Beat motor. It would be a sweet package with the 914. So small and low, great power, easy curve on the 901.

A little deja vu, Jamie... Reminds me of the v8 car when you got it. It would be cool to upgrade the cooling system in this one too, if the motor wasn't a total.
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post Oct 26 2010, 03:39 PM
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I need to take pics of the radiator setup. There is actually a shroud but it definately isn't in the league of my renegade radiator in my v8 car. I think it would be okay though. It overheated because the guy put the wrong thermostat iis what he said. He drove it like a year with no problems. Had a guy fluch the system & do a little work. He replaced the thermostat & the next longer drive he took it got hot??? I'll get more pics but it might not be tonight. Busy with kids games tonight till late.
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post Oct 26 2010, 04:35 PM
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Jaimie, show us pics of the radiator setup/ Now I'm curious... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 04:39 PM
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I need to take pics of the radiator setup. There is actually a shroud but it definately isn't in the league of my renegade radiator in my v8 car. I think it would be okay though. It overheated because the guy put the wrong thermostat iis what he said. He drove it like a year with no problems. Had a guy fluch the system & do a little work. He replaced the thermostat & the next longer drive he took it got hot??? I'll get more pics but it might not be tonight. Busy with kids games tonight till late.

I had the same engine in my VW bus. I forgot to tighten the cap once. Overheated and blew the engine. Those motors are fragile when it comes to over heating. It problably blew the apex seals. Full rebuild is usually needed after something like this.
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post Oct 26 2010, 04:44 PM
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Atkins Rotary here in Puyallup builds race engines and supplies parts. Dave the owner has a 700HP twin turbo rotary in a Mazda Cosmo and a wall of trophy's to go with it! That motor might be worth looking into fixing! I would be tempted if it wasn't for the fact that I seem to be having enough difficulty trying to get a stock 914 on the road!

Good luck,
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post Oct 26 2010, 04:48 PM
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I need to take pics of the radiator setup. There is actually a shroud but it definately isn't in the league of my renegade radiator in my v8 car.

I was recalling the pic you posted on Facebook, where the radiator was leaning backwards toward the rear of the trunk and there was a hole in the front of the trunk floor. It must have been partly disassembled and I didn't realize it?
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post Oct 26 2010, 06:01 PM
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I need to take pics of the radiator setup. There is actually a shroud but it definately isn't in the league of my renegade radiator in my v8 car.

I was recalling the pic you posted on Facebook, where the radiator was leaning backwards toward the rear of the trunk and there was a hole in the front of the trunk floor. It must have been partly disassembled and I didn't realize it?

Yeah the shroud goes in & out pretty easily. I will add more pics of it.
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post Oct 26 2010, 06:18 PM
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A fellah who builds crazy rotary stuff up here used to buy SS fittings from my shop.He pulled up in a "beater" rx7 one day,and said "hey,ever been in one of my cars?"


We went for a burn in this thing,and I just about crapped my drawers.It was INSANE.
For sure one of the fastest cars ive ever been in,and the motor looked to be the size of a sewing machine,and sounded like a bloody jet plane.Keep in mind he had off board plc stuff hanging ouf the dash,extensive turbo mods etc.but still,Yeesh!

Thinking of that particular motor,makes me say fix that thing.I bet its a riot.
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post Oct 26 2010, 06:28 PM
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My DD is a RX-8, so I know enough about the rotary to stay out of trouble.

If the engine has overheated, the apex seals are likely trashed and a full rebuild will be needed. Whatever cooling system is in there sounds like it needs to be optimized before considering putting a new engine in place.

The rotary isn't known for its longevity, but if maintained well it can last a long time. It burns oil by design, so one has to be very meticulous about adding oil at every other fill-up or else major engine failure can occur. Some even advocate premixing oil into the gas, like a 2 stroke motor.

Heat is the other enemy of these things, and they do burn hot, hence their relative inefficiency compared to other cars on the road today.

That said, the power to size ratio of the rotary can't be beat. Being able to scream them at 8500 RPM with the whirrling sound is a feeling that just can't be beat. Certainly enough in my mind to put up with their imperfections. Sure would be awesome in a 914.
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post Oct 26 2010, 06:35 PM
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OK Jamie...you know what I'm thinking...I'll refrain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Instead, "nice find." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:19 PM
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Radiator pics! Pulls in the front bottom channels it up to radiator which is angled back down & then back out the bottom? Drove it quite a while with it like this with no problems? Definately not an optimal setup but could work okay


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post Oct 26 2010, 08:52 PM
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What are the 2 black things near the air dam?
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:12 PM
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What are the 2 black things near the air dam?

Do you mean my flat tow bar?
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:38 PM
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What are the 2 black things near the air dam?

Do you mean my flat tow bar?

no in photo 1 next to the tits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:48 PM
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no in photo 1 next to the tits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ah sorry. That is part of the valance. I think he cut off the middle piece that stretched across the front.
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:56 PM
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no in photo 1 next to the tits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ah sorry. That is part of the valance. I think he cut off the middle piece that stretched across the front.


Its funny how even in your name you of rust (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Oct 26 2010, 11:14 PM
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Yes my last name is Rust. Ironic I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Here are some pics of my motor mounts & engine bar.


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post Oct 26 2010, 11:57 PM
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Pics of the muffler. Not great as the car isn't in the air


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