Engine oil, What to use in a rebuilt street motor Options

[bcheney]

What is the consensus on type of oil to use in a rebuilt (never run) -6 2.2 motor for the street? Brad Penn 20/50, Synthetic or standard Valvoline 20/50? I know the synthetic does a much better job preserving seals. I dont imagine the car will get more than about five thousand miles of use each year.

[SLITS]

Not a consensus, but I use Valvoline VR1 20 - 50 and Brad Penn 20-50.

VR1 because it is easy to get. Brad Penn is better.

I also add in a quart or so of Lucas Oil Treatment.

Overkill?

['73-914kid]

VR1 is a non-detergent oil. I run a cup of Marvel Mystery oil into the crankcase when I run VR1. Otherwise, run Brad Penn.
Depending on where you go, VR1 may be more expensive than Brad Penn, but you can buy it by the quart rather than the case..

[Jake Raby]

Here is some additional information. Its written for my engine purchasers but is still applicable. it also brings to light that there are TWO flavors of Brad Penn and one of them couldn't be less effective for your engine.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/Oil_Concern.pdf

[jaxdream]

To Jake Raby


So that's what happened to Kendall , 2 fingers , I used that stuff in the 70's when I got my first car , 63 chevy Impala SS 327 4 spd( factory ) . Look forward to getting some of that Snake Oil (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) , as by the time I get my engine going , Brad Penn Racing would be a distant mail order , you being in Jawga will be a whole lot closer.
Thanks for your continued efforts in the air cooled engine field, you will always have my ear , as far as i've read , you talk the talk and walk the walk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) .

Jack / Jaxdream

[Borderline]

I've been using Brad Penn for the last couple years with good results, but my buddy has been pushing Royal Purple XPR That he uses in his T1 motor. Says it's great and worth the BIG $$.

OBTW, Amazon sells both RP and Brad Penn and if you spend enough you get free shipping and here in CA no sales tax!!

[realred914]

Here is some additional information. Its written for my engine purchasers but is still applicable. it also brings to light that there are TWO flavors of Brad Penn and one of them couldn't be less effective for your engine.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/Oil_Concern.pdf

Hi i tried to open teh jake raby file but it wont open on my computer, what is the differences in the brad penn oils and how does one identify them? i am suing the brad penn "racing oil " right now. 20W-50

more info please or can someone past the info here instead of a weblink????


thanks

[VaccaRabite]

Hi i tried to open teh jake raby file but it wont open on my computer, what is the differences in the brad penn oils and how does one identify them? i am suing the brad penn "racing oil " right now. 20W-50
more info please or can someone past the info here instead of a weblink????

Go here, download this:
http://get.adobe.com/reader/

PDF is a world standard for web documents for the past decade or so. You need to be able to open them. And, yes, the software is free.

As to the oil, if the Brad Penn oil is green, you are in the clear. If it is NOT green, you have used the wrong stuff.

Zach

[Jake Raby]

To Jake Raby


So that's what happened to Kendall , 2 fingers , I used that stuff in the 70's when I got my first car , 63 chevy Impala SS 327 4 spd( factory ) . Look forward to getting some of that Snake Oil (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) , as by the time I get my engine going , Brad Penn Racing would be a distant mail order , you being in Jawga will be a whole lot closer.
Thanks for your continued efforts in the air cooled engine field, you will always have my ear , as far as i've read , you talk the talk and walk the walk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) .

Jack / Jaxdream

Kendall oil was made by American Refining Group, the same company that makes Brad Penn today.

Conoco Phillips bought the name "Kendall" several years ago and made the product generic.

Brad Penn oil is made at the same ARG refinery it always was when branded "Kendall" on Kendall Avenue in Bradford Pennsylvania, hence the name.

but my buddy has been pushing Royal Purple XPR That he uses in his T1 motor. Says it's great and worth the BIG

Where is his data?
I used Royal Purple in my 160K mile engine from day one. Read about that here
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.p...&Itemid=112

BUT that was before Royal Purple wasn't whored out and sold in every Pep Boys and Autozone in the country. This was back in 2000 when I got a case of it from the guy who was renting Royal Purple their warehouse after I bought my 912E from him..

I used it religiously until 18 months ago, but it was always used in that engine. I no longer recommend the product.

The reason why I decided to have an oil formulated was to be in 100% control of every batch of it. I am tired of oils changing continually and no longer being the same, we can tell the differences time and time again. Charles and I started all of the oil testing in 2005, the data we have gathered and the work we have done with Joe Gibbs Racing Oil has resulted in an entire different species of oil. Its so wild and so different no other name fits it except "Snake Oil".

We won't be selling the oil for at least anpother year to anyone except our turn key and kit engine purchasers. I want to gain hundreds of testimonials prior to selling it to "others".



This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Oct 26 2010, 01:46 PM

[Borderline]

Hey those look like Scat lube-a-lobe lifters. Cool.

[Jake Raby]

Looks can be deceiving. When compared side by side the differences are notable.

[bcheney]

Thanks for the guidance Jake. Sounds like I need to start running this oil in my 176,000 mile 89 911 Targa. It uses about 1 qt every 650 miles or so currently. I have been running Valvoline 20/50 in it for the last 100,000 miles. I should have been using this stuff...

[Jake Raby]

Thanks for the guidance Jake. Sounds like I need to start running this oil in my 176,000 mile 89 911 Targa. It uses about 1 qt every 650 miles or so currently. I have been running Valvoline 20/50 in it for the last 100,000 miles. I should have been using this stuff...

Valvoline didn't drastically change in formulation until around 2004, so you've probably been ok for most of those miles.

[bcheney]

Well....We bought the car with 76K on it in the summer of 2004...My wife drives it every day....It's been fed Valvoline ever since then. Still makes sense to change to Brad Penn now wouldn't it?

[Drums66]

What is the consensus on type of oil to use in a rebuilt (never run) -6 2.2 motor for the street? Brad Penn 20/50, Synthetic or standard Valvoline 20/50? I know the synthetic does a much better job preserving seals. I dont imagine the car will get more than about five thousand miles of use each year.

...You want to start a war don't you?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) ........Valvoline 30-40wt
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)(occasional nip of Marvel Mystery oil.....Burp!