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> Value estimate for 964 motor, Looking to buy a 3.6 motor
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post Oct 28 2010, 02:35 PM
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Guys and Ladies,

What is a fair price for a 1993 3.6l 964 based motor with harness and ECU.

The donor car had 82k miles with many of them being DE track based. I do know (not well) the previous owner, who had an incident at WG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

The engine has good leak down numbers and ran strong before the business with the blue dragon.

I was thinking $5500 but the internet sales numbers are ALL OVER THE BOARD ($4k-$8k) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) so I thought I'd raise it up here.

I appreciate the input.
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post Oct 28 2010, 02:38 PM
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I'd say way more than $5000...I was thinking it'd be in the $8k range.
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:09 PM
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Not for anything but 90s 964s with around 100k miles can be had for under $20k, even $15k. That being said, is the engine worth half of the car's value?

It sure might be, just asking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:21 PM
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Go on Pelican and review past sales. They vary with milage and maintanance records but I've seen 5-10K available.
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:32 PM
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To rebuild the engine you will be paying WAY more than that. So I would say if the leakdown numbers are okay an 82k mile engine should be had for 5k-7k. I'd offer 5 and see what he says. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:34 PM
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for $9500 you can have a 2,7 ;-)
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:57 PM
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there's a 2.7 on pelican for 2500 but these engines are like our cars, it's easy to put much more into a rebuild than they are worth on the open market.
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post Oct 28 2010, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 28 2010, 05:57 PM) *

there's a 2.7 on pelican for 2500 but these engines are like our cars, it's easy to put much more into a rebuild than they are worth on the open market.

T'was more a commentary on some of the recent 'for sale' threads.
The widespread availability of 3,2's and 3,6's in this price range is one reason a 2,7 - no matter how nice - is a hard sell in the $10k range...
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post Oct 28 2010, 08:26 PM
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I'd say you're pretty close....maybe a bit high. If it can't be heard/seen running & driving, it's a core motor. Tough market out there.
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post Oct 28 2010, 11:38 PM
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The engine will need a valve job. The guides are a weak spot on the 3.6. I would get a 95 engine. It's worth a little more. You get the last year of OBD1 and the first year of hydraulic lifters.

The engine in question is worth about $6500
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post Oct 29 2010, 04:53 PM
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....Unless the engine is in a car and you can see it run, hear it run, check the oil pressure, get it warmed up,listen for "funny noises" with a expert mechanic with you.....Assume it will need to be rebuilt., and pay accordingly...5000.00 is top dollar in my opinion, for a rebuildable core.with everything there.
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post Nov 1 2010, 08:27 PM
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Thanks everyone!

I know the previous owner and have some history on the engine,

I'll stick with $5k and if he bites, so be it.

Good info on the 964 valve guides, I have read that before.

Also, I agree with the 95 993 motor, a great motor!!
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post Nov 1 2010, 09:34 PM
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Sorry your friend hit a wall...that sucks.
start at 4500...
There are more than a few for sale right now...and there are always deals out there.
You might be surprised that you can get a 964 for 10-14k right now...especially if its tiptronic.

I would be interested in this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-Cay...=item483ca06d7d

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post Nov 1 2010, 09:50 PM
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Eric.
Think hard about going for this instead.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html

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post Nov 2 2010, 07:59 AM
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Isn't there a difference between early 964 and late 964 motors?
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:43 AM
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Rob, I am not aware of the change in the 964 motors and the red book doesn't show a difference in US engines. Maybe it has it wrong?

Thanks to you all for your musings and info on this subject.

This motor swap is intended for a 914, NO REALLY, and hopefully a clear course of action comes along soon.
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Nov 1 2010, 11:50 PM) *

Eric.
Think hard about going for this instead.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html

rich


DAMN, that would be a serious motor in a 914...
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Nov 1 2010, 11:50 PM) *

Eric.
Think hard about going for this instead.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...e-complete.html

rich


This would be one hell of an engine in the 914. Same year as my 911 turbo rated at 282HP. 4 speed tranny has heavier gears to handle the higher HP.
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(RobW @ Nov 2 2010, 06:59 AM) *

Isn't there a difference between early 964 and late 964 motors?


Yup. The early ones have HUGE oil leak issues. The later ones aren't as bad. Compression leaks, too, on the early ones ......no head gaskets, dilavar studs.

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post Nov 2 2010, 10:34 AM
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OK, it was the no head gaskets thing I was trying to remember.... supposedly, the 964 engine problems and the recession could have tanked Porsche for good, but the 993 and Boxster pulled them out...
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