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> SOT: Need to make an intake plenum, considering Al
Dr Evil
post Nov 11 2010, 09:13 PM
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Hey Folks,

I am looking to probe your colloective intellect [sound of rubber glove snapping](eeewe). I am about to embarque on a quest to install a 3.0 CIS system onto my bus corvair engine. I can not just put the stock 911 setup onto the engine because the tubes are not set up correctly and it would sit way too proud for my engine bay. So, I am planning to make a simple box plenum with 6 outlets to each cylinder. My intention is to have the distances from the box to the individual cylinders be identical so the box will be about as long as the engine and only as wide as the fuel metering gear. I will have it with 6 stems poking out and will use hose to connect the stems to down tubes bolted to the heads (much like our stock /4 stuff).

Question, I have a cheap flux wire welder that works fine, but I am thinking that I want to make the intake parts out of stainless (do I?) as the mild stuff that was originally on there corrodes and rusts and that is not ok. Can I weld stainless with my ghetto welder? Do I need special wire? This will be non-load bearing for the most part. The welding should be easy once I get the materials and tools needed figured out. I will make a box, weld it, weld stems onto it, yahtzee!
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Dr Evil   SOT: Need to make an intake plenum, considering Al   Nov 11 2010, 09:13 PM
kg6dxn   My Miller Mig will do stainless with special wire ...   Nov 11 2010, 09:22 PM
Dr Evil   I am an INTERN and will be a RESIDENT for the next...   Nov 11 2010, 09:26 PM
Dr Evil   Oh ya, it is beacuse I lack gas that I will also n...   Nov 11 2010, 09:28 PM
strawman   Oh ya, it is beacuse I lack gas that I will also ...   Nov 11 2010, 11:33 PM
kg6dxn   You should mock it up with mandrel bends. mark and...   Nov 11 2010, 09:34 PM
Dr Evil   That sounds reasonable. Then I can have some fun. ...   Nov 11 2010, 09:46 PM
Mark Henry   Stainless will rust at the welds, but for what you...   Nov 11 2010, 09:47 PM
Mark Henry   Nice :) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offs...   Nov 11 2010, 09:50 PM
Dr Evil   Nice http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite...   Nov 11 2010, 09:52 PM
Dr Evil   I guess I can powder coat now that I think about i...   Nov 11 2010, 09:51 PM
Mark Henry   The fuel will be introduced at the head so it wil...   Nov 11 2010, 09:55 PM
Mark Henry   Bottom looks nice as well http://www.914world.com/...   Nov 11 2010, 09:57 PM
Dr Evil   Ooooh, I need a wet nap   Nov 11 2010, 10:00 PM
RJMII   me too... :drooley:   Nov 11 2010, 10:06 PM
sean_v8_914   what about composits? Phillip, a 914 world member ...   Nov 11 2010, 10:23 PM
GeorgeRud   Welding stainless is quite hard and an art in itse...   Nov 11 2010, 10:55 PM
Dr Evil   I am going steel with powder. It allows me to do i...   Nov 11 2010, 11:08 PM
Dr Evil   You and numerous others.   Nov 11 2010, 11:45 PM
Andyrew   What kind of flux core do you have? A lot of them ...   Nov 12 2010, 01:37 AM
Dr Evil   What kind of flux core do you have? A lot of them...   Nov 12 2010, 08:37 PM
Dr Evil   Thats what they make JB weld for ;) seriously, I ...   Nov 12 2010, 11:50 AM
rick 918-S   Here's a good read. http://www.welding-advise...   Nov 12 2010, 07:53 PM
Dr Evil   Chances are I can fab the whole shooting match up ...   Nov 12 2010, 08:32 PM
rick 918-S   Chances are I can fab the whole shooting match up...   Nov 12 2010, 08:40 PM
okieflyr   I've found these to be helpful. http://www.man...   Nov 12 2010, 08:42 PM
speed metal army   You should just tack what you have together,and se...   Nov 12 2010, 11:56 PM
Dr Evil   Rick, when you say gas are you referring to oxy/ac...   Nov 13 2010, 11:06 AM
rick 918-S   Rick, when you say gas are you referring to oxy/a...   Nov 13 2010, 02:54 PM
r_towle   Rick, when you say gas are you referring to oxy/...   Nov 13 2010, 04:24 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='rick 918-S' post='1394055' date...   Nov 13 2010, 04:53 PM
jd74914   I've made both aluminium and steel intake mani...   Nov 13 2010, 06:43 PM
Dr Evil   There will be nothing but air going through the pl...   Nov 13 2010, 07:57 PM
rick 918-S   There will be nothing but air going through the p...   Nov 13 2010, 08:15 PM
jd74914   There will be nothing but air going through the p...   Nov 13 2010, 10:39 PM
Dr Evil   I am trying to follow the stock design which used ...   Nov 13 2010, 10:59 PM
rick 918-S   Doc, What is your cam profile? CIS may like a long...   Nov 13 2010, 11:08 PM
Dr Evil   Doc, What is your cam profile? CIS may like a lon...   Nov 14 2010, 12:11 PM
Krank   If the bus is going to be parked for any extended ...   Nov 14 2010, 01:14 AM
kwales   Here ya go Evil! If these guys can do non-rus...   Nov 14 2010, 12:04 PM
Andyrew   Dr, I agree with everyone who says tack it and h...   Nov 14 2010, 01:23 PM
speed metal army   Dr, I agree with everyone who says tack it and ...   Dec 1 2010, 09:41 PM
Dr Evil   Now I gotta try.   Nov 14 2010, 01:39 PM
Andyrew   Lol, Eh... knowing you I should have gone with r...   Nov 14 2010, 11:09 PM
Dr Evil   OK, I have been doing research and pricing. It loo...   Dec 1 2010, 09:36 PM
Borderline   OK, I have been doing research and pricing. It lo...   Dec 2 2010, 06:43 PM
GS Guy   Maybe a length of this oval tubing would be a good...   Dec 2 2010, 06:44 AM
charliew   On nasioc there is a discussion of plenum capacity...   Dec 2 2010, 09:58 AM
Vacca Rabite   Mike, if you have the metal and want to weld it, I...   Dec 2 2010, 11:24 AM
Dr Evil   Dude, 1/8" is the thinnest and is fine. Most ...   Dec 2 2010, 07:32 PM
904svo   Dr. Do you need one of these?   Dec 2 2010, 07:45 PM
Jeffs9146   I have been trying to get one of those from Montoy...   Dec 6 2010, 09:51 AM
904svo   I have been trying to get one of those from Monto...   Dec 6 2010, 10:30 AM
904svo   Dr. Do you need one of these? Its in the ma...   Dec 6 2010, 10:29 AM
Dr Evil   Ha, what do ya know! It is a premade part. I c...   Dec 2 2010, 07:49 PM
904svo   Ha, what do ya know! It is a premade part. I ...   Dec 2 2010, 08:24 PM
GS Guy   Jeff (GS Guy), what is the benefit in using oval ...   Dec 4 2010, 08:15 AM
Dr Evil   I think I may look for a used oxy/acetylene set up...   Dec 2 2010, 08:00 PM
Dr Evil   You rock! Thanks man :) PM on its way. For we...   Dec 2 2010, 08:33 PM
rick 918-S   http://www.tinmantech.com/html/aero_braze_flux_cor...   Dec 2 2010, 09:01 PM
Dr Evil   Hows about this? And, its Harbor Freight :rolleyes...   Dec 2 2010, 09:09 PM
rick 918-S   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWmpSE-hXk Ok, I ...   Dec 2 2010, 09:22 PM
76-914   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWmpSE-hXk Ok, I...   Dec 3 2010, 06:02 PM
Dr Evil   I saw that video as well. Well done by a skilled e...   Dec 3 2010, 09:07 AM
charliew   Think of all types of brazing as hot glueing. The ...   Dec 3 2010, 10:37 AM
Dr Evil   I really want to go to Oshkosh some day. As soon a...   Dec 3 2010, 06:51 PM
azbill   Mike -- Why don't you sue a stock Corvair inta...   Dec 3 2010, 09:44 PM
Dr Evil   Bill, residency is going well. The stock corvair...   Dec 3 2010, 09:59 PM
GS Guy   Found it: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_of...   Dec 4 2010, 09:04 AM
Dr Evil   Now that is what I am talking about :) I am not tu...   Dec 4 2010, 04:24 PM
Dr Evil   I was looking at the manifold adapter (holley 4bbl...   Dec 5 2010, 09:31 PM
904svo   I was looking at the manifold adapter (holley 4bb...   Dec 6 2010, 08:29 AM
904svo   Instead use the 4 bbl carb as a throttle plate thi...   Dec 6 2010, 09:42 AM
Jeffs9146   I have not been able to find a part number or ev...   Dec 6 2010, 02:30 PM
Dr Evil   That part is going to save me some serious work. A...   Dec 6 2010, 03:12 PM
Dr Evil   Here is the adapter. The only thing I see being a ...   Dec 6 2010, 10:06 PM
Dr Evil   Ya know, with this adapter one could run a 4bbl on...   Dec 6 2010, 10:07 PM


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