Gasoline Heaters, 914's and buses Options

[Mark Henry]

Electric heaters (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) ....I've said this before....
Could you just send me $50, the result will be about the same as buying a 12v electric heater, but at least I'd be happy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Electric heaters have been tried since the 60's they have never-ever worked.
Trust a Canadian on this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[Rand]

I went through all this over a Seattle winter or three. No, electric is NOT an option. It's been said. Retry all you want and fail yet again.

An indoor-safe infrared portable propane heater can help. But a good jacket and the right formula of RainX is a better bet.

You abandoned the factory solution for heat and defrost. Some have good reasons, some don't. Maybe you should go back to that. It works.

My old school way is to dress for success..... If that means it is zero degrees outside then why does getting in a car matter? If a little defrost is all you need, then a 12v can help. But you have to get it.

[r_towle]

Foley has a heater box that fits over one side and provides some heat, not sure how much.
Why couldn't you fabricate a heater box that fits over the European headers.
It's just a box with two holes for the large air hoses to push air in and out.

Might be a wierd jigsaw puzzle, but using two pieces screwed together and capturing some of the header pipes should do the trick, then you can unscrew it to service the headers...
It does not take much to heat up a 914 cabin.

[zambezi]

Don't need heat much down here in Louisiana but the few days I would I am thinking of adding seat heaters when I redo the seats. I still have the stock heat system and it is all there but I think the seat heaters would be a nice addition and is easy to do if the seats are apart.

[Mark Henry]

Foley has a heater box that fits over one side and provides some heat, not sure how much.
Why couldn't you fabricate a heater box that fits over the European headers.
It's just a box with two holes for the large air hoses to push air in and out.

Might be a wierd jigsaw puzzle, but using two pieces screwed together and capturing some of the header pipes should do the trick, then you can unscrew it to service the headers...
It does not take much to heat up a 914 cabin.

Perry K will pimp slap you for that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I've been thinking of doing the same on my /6, putting a box affair around the MSDS headers. I would agree with Perry it would be a bad idea as the mild steel tubes could rust out, but then the majority of us will never drive in the snow and salt .

If you were to try this I would for sure invest in this.
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/pspag...clickkey=134504

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[Luke M]

My brother came across this product which I believe is the same if not similar as a previous posting. We are thinking to use this as a source to keep the windows from fogging up and use the camp electric seat warmers. My brother plans on storing the car for the winter and this should be sufficient in a chilli fall/spring day. The org heater tubes in the longs are shot so they where removed.

http://dcthermal.com/catalog/sd12-4000-vol...ted-heater-copy

http://www.camp914.com/products/interior.html

[speed metal army]

Theres a fella in my town that just bought a 914 with a gas heater in it. Looks like the one in the red car pictured earlier. Actually looks like it might be the car too.

[Dtjaden]

It seems that it would be possible to use an appropriately sized oil cooler as a heater core similar to a conventional water heater core. While it might be a bit slow to warm up once warm it should be able to provide plenty of heat. No significant electrical drain and no fuel issues.

[Mark Henry]

It seems that it would be possible to use an appropriately sized oil cooler as a heater core similar to a conventional water heater core. While it might be a bit slow to warm up once warm it should be able to provide plenty of heat. No significant electrical drain and no fuel issues.

That has been done as well, it's no where near as efficient as a water heater core, oil is actually not that great at transferring heat. Plus your engine would run way too cold during warm up, so if you were to try this I recommend a bypass thermostat like you would do for a front cooler.

Really you would have to think "outside the box" on this, lets face it, people (some of them quite smart) have been facing this problem for many years.
You can bet anything conventional you can think of has been tried.

[euro911]

Don't need heat much down here in Louisiana but the few days I would I am thinking of adding seat heaters when I redo the seats. I still have the stock heat system and it is all there but I think the seat heaters would be a nice addition and is easy to do if the seats are apart.

Seats aren't really that hard to pull apart and back together.

My early European 911 came from the factory with a Webasto gas heater, although I'll probably never use it.

I had one of these 300 watt electric heaters in the camper on my '89 Toyota truck. It worked well enough to take the bite out of the cold when camping. It's still around here somewhere.




I picked up one of these a couple of years ago, also 300 watts. (300 watts requires 25 amps).




It doesn't get too cold in So Cal, unless you're in the mountains in the winter time.


If you need more current for additional electrical devices, one of our members here, Pete (pnewman), sells 105 and 160 amp alternators Click here

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[cary]

I had one in The Thing I had as a kid.
Way cool.
All I remember is the cool way it sounded when it came on.

The car I'm rustoring now will be my rest of my working life daily driver.
I've have thoughts of putting one in that car. I would probably go with a new one. Quite a bit better ignitors and safety features on the newer stuff.

Not so much the heat here in PDX. It's moisture when the heavens open up. If you run errands in the rain. Every time you stop and start you get that moisture on the windshield.

[partwerks]

I wonder if this would be comparable to the Eberspacher BL1C?
http://www.heatso.com/eberspacher-airtroni...2kw-heater-kit/

[lonewolfe]

I wonder if this would be comparable to the Eberspacher BL1C?
http://www.heatso.com/eberspacher-airtroni...2kw-heater-kit/

I plan on getting a gas heater too? I'm building a 2316cc and will be loosing my heat! I think a gas heater will be a little tricky to install but once done it will be sweet. I have a picture of factory installed gas heater I'll post when I get home tonight.

[partwerks]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

[Mark Henry]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

I've thought of doing this. Diesel bunk heaters are cheap on craigslist, but you will need to add a small tank for fuel. Built to heat a whole truck bunk I bet they throw more heat than you need.

[cary]

I wonder if this would be comparable to the Eberspacher BL1C?
http://www.heatso.com/eberspacher-airtroni...2kw-heater-kit/

I think Webasto became Eberspacher. Do some cyber research. They have quite a few models. They're used for heating big rigs when they're shut down for the night.
I also saw Aase Sales had Webasto heaters in their latest magazine ads.

[euro911]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

Electric (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[lonewolfe]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

Electric (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Have you found an electric heater that actually will heat our cars?

[Mark Henry]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

Electric (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Have you found an electric heater that actually will heat our cars?

It will heat it perfectly....in southern California (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[euro911]

Wondering which would be more favorable, gas, or diesel?

Electric (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Have you found an electric heater that actually will heat our cars?

It will heat it perfectly....in southern California (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah, adequate in So Cal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The main issue with electric is having enough power. The way to calculate how much amperage you need is the wattage divided by voltage. A 300 watt heater takes 25 amps to run. A 600 watt would need 50 amps. A 1000 watt needs 83 amps, so you'll need a bigger alternator than the stock one. That's why I recommended one of Pete Newman's alternators in a post above.