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Type IV Trivia Question, On Topic |
seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 08:23 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
What happens when you are at 6k rpms on the front stretch and miss 4th and shift to 2nd?
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Joe Bob |
Apr 25 2004, 08:27 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Float the valves, over rev the motor, hand grenade the motor.....sometimes.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif)
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Gint |
Apr 25 2004, 08:28 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Personal experience? This weekend's DE? You?
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seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 08:35 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
see today's tip #3 in DE thread.
car is still at the track. Doesn't sound like valves, not burning or blowing oil through exhaust, but it has a nice steady flow of oil pouring out when the car is running. I'm afraid it's a hole in the case. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Renting a trailer tomorrow to go pick it up. |
Gint |
Apr 25 2004, 08:37 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sux! Sounds like you had fun though.
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Joe Bob |
Apr 25 2004, 08:38 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Ouch...sorry to hear about that..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
If ya need a motor FAST let me know....operators are standing by... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) |
J P Stein |
Apr 25 2004, 08:41 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Ouch.........
Broken push rod/tube, maybe.....valve cover? Sounds like the hole is above the normal sump oil level. |
seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 08:41 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
It all depends what it needs. I have a case lined up if it's the case. If it's p/c or topend that's another story. I'll keep y'all informed.
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seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 08:43 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
JP, I was thinking maybe pushrod tube. We'll see though. It sounds decent, but not quite right.
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Aaron Cox |
Apr 25 2004, 09:01 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
OMG that sucks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Did it go baboom like a hand grenade???? it would be topend / vlavetrain stuff right? |
seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 09:03 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
not a baboom, just a very high rev. It's either a hole in the case or pushrod tube I think.
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Aaron Cox |
Apr 25 2004, 09:05 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
hole in the case... from what? thrown rod?(sorry. im still learning failure modes of over - revving an engine)
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seanery |
Apr 25 2004, 09:07 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
dunno, it's just spilling a lot of oil, gotta be a hole somewhere. Oil filter and cooler don't look like the source. If it's not a p/r tube It's gonna be pretty catastrauphic I think.
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Aaron Cox |
Apr 25 2004, 09:09 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
what could make a hole in the pushrod tube? bent pushrod?
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McMark |
Apr 25 2004, 09:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Overrevved 2.0 rods are known for loosing their big ends and busting out the case.
Check on top (obviously), on the bottom (obviously), and near where the pushrod tubes enter the case (the side). |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 25 2004, 09:12 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
OMG (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) i saw a type 1 case have that happen. man o man...it was ugly.
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914ghost |
Apr 25 2004, 10:14 PM
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BOB Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Wenatchee Washington Member No.: 1,387 |
Still runs?
No obvious loud knock but it's just "not right"? I've bent pushrods before. The type 4 p/r tubes are pretty sturdy, but you could easily give one a tweek and make it leak. Downside is, it usually means a bent valve too- if only slightly at the head. If you float the valves enough to bend one it's usually because it was trying to close and the piston came up and had a close encounter with it before it could shut. If you had a hole in the case ...well...that's usually obvious from my experience. If it runs with a hole, it's a sound straight from hell. Secound only to the diagonally snapped crankshaft that still locks together enough to run...thats a weird weird monster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) A friend of mine had that, I thought the engine would jump right out of the car. -Bob O |
SirAndy |
Apr 25 2004, 10:19 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
dude, that sucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
she was running so nicely when i drove her ... Andy |
seanery |
Apr 26 2004, 06:44 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Andy, it was running awesome. I didn't have the straightline speed others had (911s and boxsters) but I could pick em up at the technical stuff. It pulled hard all the way to 6k. I hope it's not terminal.
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Jeroen |
Apr 26 2004, 08:06 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Sean, that SUCKS!
Hope the damage isn't too bad, although it doesn't sound promising (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Keep us posted on what you find... cheers, Jeroen |
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