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| badboybear |
 Feb 2 2011, 11:57 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 27-January 11 From: Salem, OR Member No.: 12,632 Region Association: None  |
[size=3]How high do I need jack the car up to take the engine out from the bottom? Does anyone have a diagram for removing the engine....what bolts & where to remove, want to drop tranny & motor at once...hopefully.
Also where do I look or go to get a "repair kit" for the HELL HOLE. Told there is a metal replacment type piece? Thanks all, M&T914 |
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| AndyB |
Feb 2 2011, 12:04 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
Go to914 info at thhe top and click on Tech articles. Thats how I dropped mine good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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| toon1 |
Feb 2 2011, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
I don't know the excact height but it's in the 18" range. Depending o the jack or dolly that you are going to use to set the engine on will determine the height.
most of the bolts and nuts will be 10-14 mm. with the exception of the main motor mount and the trans. mount bolts which are 17mmIIRC. The motor is not difficult to remove, just make sure everything is disconnected and it will drop right down. with NO experience at doing this, it's about a 2.5 hour job. For the seasoned "pro" 45min to an 1.5 hours alone. |
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| tradisrad |
Feb 2 2011, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
While I dont have an exact height to jack the car up to I can offer some tips.
Disconnect fuel lines, clutch & throttle cables, battery, CVs (they dont need to be removed but must pass over the engine) & trans ground strap + any misc wiring the engine may have & any emission hoses. 1st dont raise the car so high that your jack wont reach the eng/trans. 2nd it is helpful to remove the air cleaner and injectors (injectors may catch on the suspension "ears") 3rd drop it as a package eng/trans I place a 3/4" thick piece of plywood on the jack and center it near the fly wheel, maybe slightly forward. It is helpful to have a friend or two during the removal process, however it can be done solo. Check Auto Atlanta or Restoration Design for you replacement parts. With some experience the engine can be removed in an hour and a half to two hours (or less time in some garages) I find it easier to disconnect the trans mounts instead of the nuts off of the 2 mounting bolts. Good luck, it's only scary the first time. |
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| badboybear |
Feb 2 2011, 12:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 27-January 11 From: Salem, OR Member No.: 12,632 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(tradisrad @ Feb 2 2011, 10:17 AM)  While I dont have an exact height to jack the car up to I can offer some tips. Disconnect fuel lines, clutch & throttle cables, battery, CVs (they dont need to be removed but must pass over the engine) & trans ground strap + any misc wiring the engine may have & any emission hoses. 1st dont raise the car so high that your jack wont reach the eng/trans. 2nd it is helpful to remove the air cleaner and injectors (injectors may catch on the suspension "ears") 3rd drop it as a package eng/trans I place a 3/4" thick piece of plywood on the jack and center it near the fly wheel, maybe slightly forward. It is helpful to have a friend or two during the removal process, however it can be done solo. Check Auto Atlanta or Restoration Design for you replacement parts. With some experience the engine can be removed in an hour and a half to two hours (or less time in some garages) I find it easier to disconnect the trans mounts instead of the nuts off of the 2 mounting bolts. Good luck, it's only scary the first time. Thanks & yes scared...sort of, not like getting married...LOL. I will also check out the tech articles and the other places mentioned. Appreciate all very much....stay tuned I know I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) |
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| tradisrad |
Feb 2 2011, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Nah, no blood required. Check your CV bolts; they should be a 12pt (triple square) socket, although they may have been replaced with the incorrect regular Allen socket. This is a "special" tool that you may need. |
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| stugray |
Feb 2 2011, 01:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Oh.... AND drain the oil FIRST ;-)
I used to be able to do the whole job in 1 hour with a carb engine. FI is just a little more complicated. Stu |
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| badboybear |
Feb 2 2011, 02:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 27-January 11 From: Salem, OR Member No.: 12,632 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(stugray @ Feb 2 2011, 11:30 AM) Oh.... AND drain the oil FIRST ;-) I used to be able to do the whole job in 1 hour with a carb engine. FI is just a little more complicated. Stu Thanks guys...really do appreciate it & we'll drain ALL fluids first...lol Mike |
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| Jerry75914 |
Feb 2 2011, 02:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 13-October 08 From: Half Moon Bay, CA Member No.: 9,640 Region Association: Northern California |
There is a good article on the PP site "engine drop made easy". I just used it a few weeks ago on my first engine drop...did it solo, no issues. I did need to get it pretty high up, around 30" with the rear valance removed if I remember right...but I could also have removed more from teh engine first.
Watch out for it getting hung up on the suspension console...it is a REALLY tight fit going down. be patient, and you'll be fine, good luck! |
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| detoxcowboy |
Feb 2 2011, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
914 Engine Removal Made Easy
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...engine_drop.htm |
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| jt914-6 |
Feb 2 2011, 03:47 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Don't forget the tranny ground strap..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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| stugray |
Feb 2 2011, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Oh, and use zip ties or coat hangers to hold the axles up in the air (or take them all the way off) and put sandwich baggies over the CVs or you will end up with grease everywhere.
Trying to work around them is a PITA. "Don't forget the tranny ground strap...." Oh, no you can forget it....... it will just tear off or leave the tranny hanging and you wonder "what the heck"..... BTDT |
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| badboybear |
Feb 2 2011, 05:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 27-January 11 From: Salem, OR Member No.: 12,632 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(detoxcowboy @ Feb 2 2011, 12:52 PM) Downloaded info and thanks guys...ladies if your out there. I won't forget the tranny ground strap either...hope this works. Things we do to save a buck...lol!! |
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| Jeffs9146 |
Feb 2 2011, 09:17 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
The higher the better!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| silver74insocal |
Feb 2 2011, 10:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 26-November 09 From: rancho cucamonga Member No.: 11,073 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(tradisrad @ Feb 2 2011, 10:44 AM) QUOTE I'm gonna bust a knuckle...OUCH! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Nah, no blood required. Check your CV bolts; they should be a 12pt (triple square) socket, although they may have been replaced with the incorrect regular Allen socket. This is a "special" tool that you may need. WAHT!! all 914's require a blood offering before leaving the jackstands...might as well get it out of the way now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) good luck..i have used the pelican method a few times on my own just take your time and check everyhting twice... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Dave |
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| rohar |
Feb 2 2011, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
I took 4 1" 16gauge tubes and drilled some holes through them. Just long enough to bolt to the front hubs and keep the disks off the ground.
If you drop the front of the car a bit, you don't have to jack it up as high at the middle of the car. Don't have to use chalks in the front either. |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 2 2011, 10:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,638 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 2 2011, 10:04 AM) Go to914 info at thhe top and click on Tech articles. Thats how I dropped mine good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) This was good advice ... It's all here ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php |
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| JmuRiz |
Sep 2 2011, 11:47 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Experts, I have a couple of questions:
What are special instructions for cars with carbs? What are special instructions for using a lift to remove the engine? Thanks, I may be trying my first engine drop this weekend. |
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| jimkelly |
Sep 2 2011, 12:01 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
damn scary high for a V8 - slightly less for a 4.
be sure to check the front wheels very well. and go under as briefly as possible. Attached image(s)  
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| JawjaPorsche |
Sep 2 2011, 12:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
Do I see antifreeze on the driveway? Be sure to keep your dogs away!
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Sep 2 2011, 02:01 PM) damn scary high for a V8 - slightly less for a 4. be sure to check the front wheels very well. and go under as briefly as possible. |
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