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> OT: how hard is it, type IV in a beetle
ripper911
post Feb 26 2011, 11:30 AM
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I've been thinking about this lately.

Back when I only had Beetles I thought a type IV would be too expensive, but now that I'm buying them left and right I see this isn't always the case. And it would be a nice boost for the fun factor!

How hard is it to put one of these into a Beetle?
Specifically a 73 Super Beetle.
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:32 AM
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I would say ask Jake.
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:40 AM
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I was thinking the same thing for the ghia wenarenprobably picking up. The upright cooling system conversion would probably cost more than a decent type 1.
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:53 AM
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Joe Cali has been doing them for years. Jake had him on one of his first radio shows. His site:

Joe Cali

Some of his work:

Tunacan website
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:58 AM
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Jake's Aircooled Technology Forum has a section on Type IV conversion...
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post Feb 26 2011, 12:03 PM
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IIRC, it takes the upright cooling system, a different flywheel and clutch, modified sheet metal, and engine mount.

I'm sure I left something out, besides the exhaust; but, since it has been done so much I bet there are kits out there that make it super easy and have had a couple decades of improvements done.
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post Feb 26 2011, 12:08 PM
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I forgot Jake did them
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/p...at=0&page=1

Think we will keep ours type 1 for now.
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post Feb 26 2011, 12:27 PM
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Did anyone mention to check:

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/home.php

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post Feb 26 2011, 04:30 PM
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The Germans have been doing this for years I'll post some links later.
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post Feb 26 2011, 07:36 PM
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We've been doing it for years too.. I did my first one 20 years ago.

My forums are all about the conversion, we have every part necessary to BOLT the engine in, no cuting and no hassles.
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post Feb 26 2011, 08:36 PM
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Jake can correct me but I think the ghia has enough room to use the T4 w/o mods to the std T4 cooling system.
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post Feb 26 2011, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 26 2011, 07:36 PM) *

Jake can correct me but I think the ghia has enough room to use the T4 w/o mods to the std T4 cooling system.


Yeah if you want to cut up the engine bay and still settle for compromised cooling and an engine that weighs 40# more. Converting to upright is the only way to go.
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post Feb 26 2011, 10:08 PM
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Chris (type11969) has a TIV converted bug. I wanted to get it from him at one time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 27 2011, 10:23 AM
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post Feb 27 2011, 12:52 PM
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MassIVe engines all converted to upright using my DTM. These engines average 140-250HP, all are street engines on pump gas. The conversion is simple with perfected components.

In a beetle.. note the airconditioning, this is my Wife's car
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This one is a 3 liter twin plug making 250HP
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In a VW Thing
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In an early Bay Window Bus
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In a 356A (yes that is a V2 DTM!
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In a 356B
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In a 912
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post Feb 27 2011, 01:54 PM
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Thanks Jake! I knew it would fit... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

I'll take one of each of those cars! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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