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Hell hole? |
pauldunn |
Mar 10 2011, 04:08 PM
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dudeface Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-February 11 From: Arizona Member No.: 12,687 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Where is this "Hell hole" every one keeps mentioning? is it under the battery?
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 10 2011, 04:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,858 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
I REALLY DO NOT LIKE "HELL" AND "914" STATED IN THE SAME SENTENCE OR BREATH! Let's change it to "battery area" instead. Have you EVER heard me say that phrase? NO!
The battery was in a great location for function and balance but a bad place for getting hot, rained upon and boiling over onto the frame. Even the most rust free 914 probably has problems in this area as no new car buyer was aware of the problem until it was too late Where is this "Hell hole" every one keeps mentioning? is it under the battery? |
Cupomeat |
Mar 10 2011, 04:24 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ok, the "Battery Area from Hades" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) is under the battery, where the frame meets the firewall and inner fender wall. You are correct.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Just check out the rebuild threads and you'll see the work that has gone into rebuilding this area. It is usually an indicator of where you'd find the worst rust in a 914. Plus it is a very critical structural area. Good luck and George, I agree that it is an unfortunate side affect of the engineering decision to place the battery in that area. Sometimes giving something a name, helps people to be less afraid of it. "Battery Area" won't stick as it is not interesting. "Battery Hole" might be ok? |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 10 2011, 04:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,858 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
good man.
Ok, the "Battery Area from Hades" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) is under the battery, where the frame meets the firewall and inner fender wall. You are correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Just check out the rebuild threads and you'll see the work that has gone into rebuilding this area. It is usually an indicator of where you'd find the worst rust in a 914. Plus it is a very critical structural area. Good luck and George, I agree that it is an unfortunate side affect of the engineering decision to place the battery in that area. Sometimes giving something a name, helps people to be less afraid of it. "Battery Area" won't stick as it is not interesting. "Battery Hole" might be ok? |
jimkelly |
Mar 10 2011, 05:42 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
it is this area and above and below ; )
and see this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748 Attached image(s) |
windforfun |
Mar 10 2011, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,789 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
It's the engine compartment in general. It's hard to work in. If you remove the lid, IMHO, then this is no longer the case.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 10 2011, 06:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,858 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
that's not bad at all!
it is this area and above and below ; ) and see this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748 |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 10 2011, 07:21 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I like "Hell Hole". It's a very descriptive phrase, and when you first start digging into a 914 that you "thought" and were "told" was "completely solid" to find the typical problems in there, you'll know why it is called that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
--DD |
markb |
Mar 10 2011, 07:29 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
I like "Hell Hole". It's a very descriptive phrase, and when you first start digging into a 914 that you "thought" and were "told" was "completely solid" to find the typical problems in there, you'll know why it is called that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
sww914 |
Mar 11 2011, 01:14 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
How's "Hello Ho!"?
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J P Stein |
Mar 11 2011, 09:22 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Here's a pic of the hell hole (TS, "dr."). On a stock car this area cannot be seen.....too much crap in the way....with a double jointed forearm it cam be felt tho. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
That trough formed by the fwd firewall, engine shelf, and inner fender collects shittage in a big way....including water and acid washed off the battery top......even with the so called drain clear. Gravity takes care of the rest. Here in the NW, that is THE single biggest killer of 914s, IMO. I've prolly looked/felt(?) at 50 914s herebouts. Maybe a handful were solid(I bought one of those). The rest had sucking chest wounds in the top of the longitudinal. The opposite side is the same, but since no battery acid is present (and access is somwhat better) it holds up much better. Attached image(s) |
jimkelly |
Mar 11 2011, 10:01 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
that is a nice one JP
here is mine Attached image(s) |
type47 |
Mar 11 2011, 10:46 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'll add a pic or 2
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