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Costly transmission issues - what should I do? |
patssle |
Mar 16 2011, 08:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Well, my guy opened up my 901 tranny - I gots issues. With rough prices (he's going to call me back)
1st gear slider ($470) 1st gear mesh teeth ($340) 2nd gear mesh teeth ($274) 1 main shaft ball bearing ($220) Synchros for all gears ($100 each) That majorly adds up. Any thoughts? Do I suck it up and pay for it, or are there better alternatives? It would be cheaper to convert to a 915 trans when I do my 3.0L conversion, but no idea of the state of the internals on that trans. |
914itis |
Mar 16 2011, 08:48 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Well, my guy opened up my 901 tranny - I gots issues. With rough prices (he's going to call me back) 1st gear slider ($470) 1st gear mesh teeth ($340) 2nd gear mesh teeth ($274) 1 main shaft ball bearing ($220) Synchros for all gears ($100 each) That majorly adds up. Any thoughts? Do I suck it up and pay for it, or are there better alternatives? It would be cheaper to convert to a 915 trans when I do my 3.0L conversion, but no idea of the state of the internals on that trans. my .002 $600 will get you close to buy you gas, pay for tolls and cover the cost for Dr. Evil's clinics, that includes parts i think. you meet some great guys, have fun ,learn and save $1000 bucks. |
patssle |
Mar 16 2011, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Yeah but would still need parts. Unless evil is giving away sliders at next to nothing!
He gave me a final quote of $2500 total. I think I'm going to suck it up and pay - it'll be a long lasting tranny. Unless any last thoughts to the otherwise? |
patssle |
Mar 16 2011, 09:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Sure, my guy mentioned it too. I saw some fully rebuilt trans going for $2000. But on the used ones, I could encounter the same problem. Same with going with the 915 instead, but no clue on what's inside waiting.
I sucked it up and going for the full rebuild. It'll last me a long time, so money well spent. At least I'll tell myself that! |
Root_Werks |
Mar 16 2011, 10:05 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Get a used 901, keep your old one for parts (the ones that are good) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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windforfun |
Mar 16 2011, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,789 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Go for it. Use your CC if you have to.
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mepstein |
Mar 16 2011, 12:25 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,272 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well, my guy opened up my 901 tranny - I gots issues. With rough prices (he's going to call me back) 1st gear slider ($470) 1st gear mesh teeth ($340) 2nd gear mesh teeth ($274) 1 main shaft ball bearing ($220) Synchros for all gears ($100 each) That majorly adds up. Any thoughts? Do I suck it up and pay for it, or are there better alternatives? It would be cheaper to convert to a 915 trans when I do my 3.0L conversion, but no idea of the state of the internals on that trans. Do you need 1st for your 6 conversion? - I bought a used side shift trans for $50. 1st gear was toast but we did a 1st gear delete for the 3.2 conversion anyway so total cost was $500 + ~80 for some parts that the Evil one replaced. I added a flipped H gear for a taller 5th gear and a 901 intermediate plate for the linkage boss but that is optional. |
bondo |
Mar 16 2011, 12:43 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
You could save some $ by using serviceable used parts. The 2-5 syncros and sliders are all the same, and the 4-5 stuff is usually in good shape in a used trans. You'll need a dog tooth puller if you want to salvage those. (I borrowed one) A used trans in unknown condition can be had for around $50-75 if you look around (tail/side shift, doesn't matter for the gears). Of course it could all be thrashed, but they usually aren't. You might even luck out and get a good bearing.
Forget about finding good used 1st gear parts from a mystery used trans... never seen it. (the syncro band is the same as 2-5 though, but that's it... even the dog teeth are different) |
GeorgeRud |
Mar 16 2011, 12:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
A 915 would be nice with a 3.2, but I'd figure $4000 minimum for one thats been converted and freshened.
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JRust |
Mar 16 2011, 12:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well, my guy opened up my 901 tranny - I gots issues. With rough prices (he's going to call me back) 1st gear slider ($470) 1st gear mesh teeth ($340) 2nd gear mesh teeth ($274) 1 main shaft ball bearing ($220) Synchros for all gears ($100 each) That majorly adds up. Any thoughts? Do I suck it up and pay for it, or are there better alternatives? It would be cheaper to convert to a 915 trans when I do my 3.0L conversion, but no idea of the state of the internals on that trans. Just have Dr Evil build it for you. Probably run half that. Or go to one of his clinics. Yes he willl use used parts but good ones. You won't have a problem with his rebuilt tranny. It will just cost you alot less |
bandjoey |
Mar 16 2011, 02:57 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Dr Evil is the Expert. Find his vendor link and download ?70 pages of rebuild info. Buy his DVD and do it yourself. Read his info on one of the clinic dates. There's info there about parts.
There are people in your area that can help I'll bet. Good luck |
Richard Casto |
Mar 17 2011, 07:46 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
You could save some $ by using serviceable used parts. The 2-5 syncros and sliders are all the same, and the 4-5 stuff is usually in good shape in a used trans. You'll need a dog tooth puller if you want to salvage those. (I borrowed one) A used trans in unknown condition can be had for around $50-75 if you look around (tail/side shift, doesn't matter for the gears). Of course it could all be thrashed, but they usually aren't. You might even luck out and get a good bearing. Forget about finding good used 1st gear parts from a mystery used trans... never seen it. (the syncro band is the same as 2-5 though, but that's it... even the dog teeth are different) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You can do a rebuild for much less if you are on a budget and you are also strategic with respect to the balance of new vs. used parts. For example I think use synchro hubs (aka dog teeth) can be an excellent value. If you have the budget, maybe a new first gear slider might not be a bad thing. Used examples that are in good condition are getting more rare. Same goes for synchro rings (some people call them synchro bands). For example if your budget allows you might put new ones on 1st and 2nd and the use good used examples on 3rd, 4th and 5th. It all depends upon your budget and what you expect to get when you are done. Richard |
r_towle |
Mar 17 2011, 11:29 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
parts cost what they cost if you are going new.
If you do it right, it will last your lifetime. RIch |
Dr Evil |
Mar 17 2011, 06:41 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks for all the accolades, folks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I have used parts and rebuild boxes for far less than retail ALL THE TIME. I have good used 1st sliders for a lot less. These are hard to come by. Parts boxes typically do not have good ones. Let me know if I can help. |
Spoke |
Mar 17 2011, 07:18 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I have good used 1st sliders for a lot less. These are hard to come by. Parts boxes typically do not have good ones. Send it to the Doctor. He rebuilt my trans from parts in his parts bin and the trans is like new. He knows what he's doing and won't steer you wrong. Save your cash, put the trans in a box and send it to PA to let the Doctor fix it. |
914itis |
Mar 17 2011, 09:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I have good used 1st sliders for a lot less. These are hard to come by. Parts boxes typically do not have good ones. Send it to the Doctor. He rebuilt my trans from parts in his parts bin and the trans is like new. He knows what he's doing and won't steer you wrong. Save your cash, put the trans in a box and send it to PA to let the Doctor fix it. I think he already gave the shop his credit card, oh well we tried (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
Dr Evil |
Mar 18 2011, 03:27 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That is where the shops get you. Labor Cost can be equal to what I charge, but they will not have good used stock and new is vastly expensive.
Buy some used and bring it to them. If they will not use it, send me the parts and I will help you put it back together. |
Dr Evil |
Mar 18 2011, 05:58 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Btw, the prices of those teeth are way too high. If you must have new, pm me and I can get you whole sale.
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