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clogged jets, air adjustment,, WTF? |
914itis |
Mar 17 2011, 09:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I drove the car today, started fine, drove for about 30 minutes, no problem after a few, i feel like it was loosing power a bit, I ran a test by taking out the plugs and noticed that there was no difference when i take out #3, I cleaned the jet, and it works fine... driver again for a few, the same thing, not the dead cylender was 1, cleaned the jets, nothing, adjusted the air, it works fine...... ok
take it for an amnother spin 20 minutes or so, same thing again and this time the dead one was 4, cleaned the jets, nothing, adjusted air mothing, adjusted the fuel, then it was fine... 3 cylenders with different solutions? if the were all clogged I would think dirtyfuel filter. is it what it takes to adjust carbs, one minute they are working fine and the next, they de-adjust themself? if so, when does it stops? |
jmill |
Mar 17 2011, 09:14 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'd say it is the fuel filter. You should run at least 2. One by the tank and the other at the carbs. Some guys run 3, one at each carb and the tank. Crap can clog the idle jet, idle mixture screw, pump jets, etc. Just because it didn't clog all the idle jets at once doesn't mean your filter is ok.
BTW if you do change your filters out expect some junk made it into the float bowl. You might have to blow out things until the bowls are clear. |
VaccaRabite |
Mar 18 2011, 07:11 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Trash has made it into your carbs. If your car sat all winter, you could also be having gummy gas issues, as the gum is dislodged it could also block passages in your carbs. I am expecting to have to fight with this a little myself. Zach |
ldsgeek |
Mar 18 2011, 08:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 27-June 10 From: New Hampshire Member No.: 11,885 Region Association: None |
For gummy gas issues might i recommend a dose of Seafoam. I use it every spring in my 1982 Goldwing and it does wonders. The first year I had it on the road, after it sat for 6.5 years, I had rebuilt the carbs and it ran well enough, but after I dosed it with Seafoam the idle climbed to 4000 with out touching the screw as the carbs got cleaner. The stuff just works. Find it at any local parts store and sometimes wally-world.
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VaccaRabite |
Mar 18 2011, 08:47 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
For those that are using Seafoam or Marvel Mystery Oil, do you put it in the tank, or dribble it down each carb throat while the engine is running?
Zach |
tommy914 |
Mar 18 2011, 09:03 AM
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Life is a journey, enjoy every turn. Group: Members Posts: 1,103 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Ridgeland, MS Member No.: 1,165 Region Association: None |
For those that are using Seafoam or Marvel Mystery Oil, do you put it in the tank, or dribble it down each carb throat while the engine is running? Zach in the tank for both. also, since all the gas down here is now 10% ethanol, i've been using Stabil in every tank. Tommy |
Root_Werks |
Mar 18 2011, 09:09 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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also, since all the gas down here is now 10% ethanol, i've been using Stabil in every tank. [/quote] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Couple of good and recent threads on this. Ethanol is the killer of carbs. Gums them up weekly. Search for "carb popping" or "Ethanol", threads will pop up. |
URY914 |
Mar 18 2011, 09:25 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,662 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I wish the a-holes in Washington knew how much ethanol is really costing the country. We are now having to use more oil based products to combat ethanols effects. There are posts like this on every forum I belong to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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914itis |
Mar 18 2011, 09:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
what would be the normal sequence?
do I put the seafoam first and let it run? for how long? then pot the stabil, or can I just put both at the same time? |
VaccaRabite |
Mar 18 2011, 09:57 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Put the Stabil in every time you fill up the tank with gas.
From what I have read, Marine Stabil is what you want to use. Just keep a bottle of it in your car's toolbox or front trunk. Zach |
914itis |
Mar 18 2011, 10:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Put the Stabil in every time you fill up the tank with gas. From what I have read, Marine Stabil is what you want to use. Just keep a bottle of it in your car's toolbox or front trunk. Zach BTW, I am dropping my engine today for a side shift conversion. |
FourBlades |
Mar 18 2011, 10:23 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
You might check your air filters as well. The stock air filters that came with my carbs are basically window screen with some cotton fiber in between. You need to oil them regularly with filter oil for them to do anything. I inspected mine carefully the other day because I am having the same idle jet problems you are and I noticed that a lot of holes in the cotton filling. My air filters were basically just two sheets of window screen material in these points. I ordered new air filters and hope this will end clogged idle jet problems I am having. Jake pointed out this problem a while back. The cheap air filters actually shed their cotton fibers and they end up clogging your idles. John |
Kraftwerk |
Mar 18 2011, 10:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 6-September 07 From: Bbbbbrroooklynnn Member No.: 8,085 |
Paul,
Let me know if you need an audience for the transmission change.. I am sure you have plenty of helpers! My car is running well, F.I. ftw! jt |
914itis |
Mar 18 2011, 11:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Paul, Let me know if you need an audience for the transmission change.. I am sure you have plenty of helpers! My car is running well, F.I. ftw! jt great. actually I dont.. if you want to come over that will be great, will be dropping it arround 4 pm .. and will be working on it tomorow so I can put it back sunday... let me know |
jmill |
Mar 18 2011, 03:40 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You might check your air filters as well. The stock air filters that came with my carbs are basically window screen with some cotton fiber in between. You need to oil them regularly with filter oil for them to do anything. I inspected mine carefully the other day because I am having the same idle jet problems you are and I noticed that a lot of holes in the cotton filling. My air filters were basically just two sheets of window screen material in these points. I ordered new air filters and hope this will end clogged idle jet problems I am having. Jake pointed out this problem a while back. The cheap air filters actually shed their cotton fibers and they end up clogging your idles. John Forgot about the air filters. That would do it too. BTW, if your running K&N's lose them. They flow better because they don't filter as well. |
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