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> Lost an axle today @ 85 MPH, and got to work 5 min late
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:16 AM
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I am a luck SOB (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

40 min in to my drive to work. Music jammin wind flying im in the fast lane (big trucks all around the place) and WHAM I loose the transmission, still in 5th gear but car is in neutral. And the exhaust is noticeably louder....

I put my signal on to coast 3 lanes as the trucks try to spped up and not let me over (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I am loosing momentum. Finally I see a break and coast onto the shoulder. Kill the engine. Ready to call the towtruck. It was a bad clunk.

I look over the car engine transmission when i notice the drivers axle sitting on the heat exchanger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) All four bolts were still there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) A nice dent in the top of the heat exchanger. I thread the bolts on by hand and get the allen wrench, tighten everything back up. IN THE RAIN. and my hands are thick black CV grease (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Got to work 5 min late.

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p.s. I bought evils saftey bolts and forgot to put the wire in
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:36 AM
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:40 AM
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Holy crap! You are so lucky!

You have a rush-hour commute that allows you to go 85mph? In Maryland????????
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:59 AM
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In 38 years of 914 CV joint installation, I've had ONE fail bad enough to prevent the car from moving under its own power. Never used safety wire. Must be the fact I do it right, every time. Or maybe not ........................
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post Mar 21 2011, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 21 2011, 09:59 AM) *

In 38 years of 914 CV joint installation, I've had ONE fail bad enough to prevent the car from moving under its own power. Never used safety wire. Must be the fact I do it right, every time. Or maybe not ........................


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post Mar 21 2011, 12:31 PM
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Just curious were the bolts switched over to the allan ones or the original 12 point ones.

P.s. Glad you and the 14 was ok.
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post Mar 21 2011, 12:50 PM
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crazy... but I'm glad it worked out and you were able to keep the 914 running.
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post Mar 21 2011, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(porsche913b_sp @ Mar 21 2011, 02:31 PM) *

Just curious were the bolts switched over to the allan ones or the original 12 point ones.

P.s. Glad you and the 14 was ok.

They are the Evil allen bolts .

I was just forgot to put the wire in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:33 PM
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jakeodoule @ Mar 21 2011, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 21 2011, 09:59 AM) *

In 38 years of 914 CV joint installation, I've had ONE fail bad enough to prevent the car from moving under its own power. Never used safety wire. Must be the fact I do it right, every time. Or maybe not ........................


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Who are you and where's the real Cap'n?
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post Mar 21 2011, 05:16 PM
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For those of us in the "great unwashed" group....just what is the torque setting, I just wind 'em up until the wrench handle begins to bend.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 21 2011, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 21 2011, 08:59 AM) *

In 38 years of 914 CV joint installation, I've had ONE fail bad enough to prevent the car from moving under its own power. Never used safety wire. Must be the fact I do it right, every time. Or maybe not ........................


or maybe...

jaysayre914, don't you work in a "head shop"... just sayin' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

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post Mar 21 2011, 06:51 PM
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I cant tell you how many time that has happened to me in my baja bug. way too many times!!!! even once the left rear trans bolt came out which left the driver side of the trans resting on the cv joint. found the bolt, walked 5 miles to buy a wrench and put it back in with no problems. joys of owning old cars...
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 21 2011, 09:59 AM) *

In 38 years of 914 CV joint installation, I've had ONE fail bad enough to prevent the car from moving under its own power. Never used safety wire. Must be the fact I do it right, every time. Or maybe not ........................

and being the consumate professional I'll bet you torque them. I say this after retightening mine several times I read about using all new parts and torqueing them. I was amazed at how under torqued I had done it before. It's scary tight.
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post Mar 22 2011, 06:06 AM
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Well, that was probably the sound you were hearing.

I'm glad you were able to get it fixed roadside.
If you are reading this, I'm still sick so you probably don't want me helping tonight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just my luck finally having a week off and being sick. I'm not getting much of anything done!

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post Mar 22 2011, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Mar 22 2011, 08:06 AM) *

Well, that was probably the sound you were hearing.

I'm glad you were able to get it fixed roadside.
If you are reading this, I'm still sick so you probably don't want me helping tonight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just my luck finally having a week off and being sick. I'm not getting much of anything done!

Zach

Thanks anyway Zach,

I believe the sounds i was hearing was a combo of loose cv, bad bearing, and exhaust leak. All will be fixed tommorow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)


Good news is i can turn the stereo up lound enough that all the sounds are gone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:26 AM
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RJMII makes the kits now. For those that have not needed them good. For those that argue that they are unnecessary, all I say is:

I have been driving cars for many years and never needed my air bag..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Cheap insurance that works. Period.
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:27 AM
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Torque is 30 ft/lb
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post Mar 24 2011, 11:01 AM
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Car is in the shop gettin the rear bearings done.

Tony checked the axle for me and noticed that i lost the cv gasket and both pins that line it up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)

He is also going to fix the horrible exhaust leak the axle caused (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Mar 24 2011, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 22 2011, 10:26 AM) *

RJMII makes the kits now. For those that have not needed them good. For those that argue that they are unnecessary, all I say is:

I have been driving cars for many years and never needed my air bag..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Cheap insurance that works. Period.

I did consider these, the wired ones, for a bit....just cause I too lost an axle once.

then I spent the big dollars and bought new washers and a gasket.
Simple todo...and it has held for 10 years...no issues.

Seems all my cars have CV joints now and no wires.
Probably just using the right parts and the right torque is all that is needed.


I think alot of us may re-use the washers and they are really one time only use.

The wires are insurance, but I always suspect how much potential weakness the system has created in the head of the bolt...considering how hard I have had to get on these sometimes with vice grips...I have been worried about two holes becoming an issue...

Dunno, if I ever have a problem again, I will probably go for the wire, or nuts on the back...

That comes from a guy that is full of Sh#$ so keep that in mind...lots of people would agree with that statement about me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have owned over 20 aircooled VW/Porsche cars.
I have worked on them non professionally, total shade tree for 30 plus years now.
All of them have CV joints....well most of them...some had swing axles (which I hate)
In all those cars, in and out with the transmissions....none have failed EXCEPT the 914.
Must be more vibration or stress on something.

I am no Cap'n, nor would I ever claim to be.
Certainly have my days that I would respond in the same Crusty like manner...but as I get older I choose to walk away from the site at that point... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)




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