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Type 4 engine stand conversion, Type 4 engine stand |
john914/4 |
Mar 25 2011, 04:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 5-August 09 From: Anderson, Indiana Member No.: 10,640 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I was talking with my brother about coming up with a adapter to fit onto a type 4 vw engine. I seen the ones on the net and I don't get it? this thing looks like it will only pick up 2 bolts. I want to come up with something that will be able to atach the 4 bolts. so I can spin this dude. we like the idea of coming up with an adapter to slide onto the 2 1/2" yoke of a reguler engine stand. of which I have 2. anybody come up with a nice idea? thanks.
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bigkensteele |
Mar 25 2011, 05:04 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
They make them that way so you can split the case and still have half of it on the stand.
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john914/4 |
Mar 25 2011, 05:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 5-August 09 From: Anderson, Indiana Member No.: 10,640 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
They make them that way so you can split the case and still have half of it on the stand. oh okey. I take it that it is supported fairly well then with only 2 bolts attached. seems like there would be to much weight on the 2 areas though. but if it works it works. |
euro911 |
Mar 25 2011, 05:10 PM
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It depends.
If you want to build an engine stand for tearing apart and rebuilding engines, the half-moon crescent type are best, because you'll need to separate the case halves to get at the innards. If you want an engine run stand, see this thread: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index....ic=1830&hl= |
john914/4 |
Mar 25 2011, 05:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 5-August 09 From: Anderson, Indiana Member No.: 10,640 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It depends. If you want to build an engine stand for tearing apart and rebuilding engines, the half-moon crescent type are best, because you'll need to separate the case halves to get at the innards. If you want an engine run stand, see this thread: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index....ic=1830&hl= thanks for the info I am looking at just a rebuild and that is where I am . splitting then would be great. thanks |
bigkensteele |
Mar 25 2011, 05:35 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
I should have also said that I use a Harbor Freight stand, and it can be bolted to all four holes without any modification (but you have to take off the flywheel). I am not splitting my case, so it works best for me on my current re-seal project. If you need to be able to support the weight of the entire engine and rotate it, you are correct that the half yoke probably isn't the best.
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john914/4 |
Mar 26 2011, 08:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 5-August 09 From: Anderson, Indiana Member No.: 10,640 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It depends. If you want to build an engine stand for tearing apart and rebuilding engines, the half-moon crescent type are best, because you'll need to separate the case halves to get at the innards. If you want an engine run stand, see this thread: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index....ic=1830&hl= I went to the site and read about the stand. does the housing have to be a VW bus bell housing or will a reguler bel housing from a porche 914 work as I have a couple. and does year matter. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 26 2011, 10:45 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
I should have also said that I use a Harbor Freight stand, and it can be bolted to all four holes without any modification (but you have to take off the flywheel). I am not splitting my case, so it works best for me on my current re-seal project. If you need to be able to support the weight of the entire engine and rotate it, you are correct that the half yoke probably isn't the best. "Isn't the best"? Porsche and VW think so. Porsche hangs all kinds of REALLY heavy engines on the "half yoke" without a problem. While there are only 2 bolts, the load is spread over the entire case half. That's why the machined half circle is there. With the 4 bolt stand sold primarily for use with American iron, all the weight is taken by 4 relatively tiny points, or 2 if you're using it in a way that the case halves will separate easily. The Cap'n |
bigkensteele |
Mar 26 2011, 11:44 AM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
I should have also said that I use a Harbor Freight stand, and it can be bolted to all four holes without any modification (but you have to take off the flywheel). I am not splitting my case, so it works best for me on my current re-seal project. If you need to be able to support the weight of the entire engine and rotate it, you are correct that the half yoke probably isn't the best. "Isn't the best"? Porsche and VW think so. Porsche hangs all kinds of REALLY heavy engines on the "half yoke" without a problem. While there are only 2 bolts, the load is spread over the entire case half. That's why the machined half circle is there. With the 4 bolt stand sold primarily for use with American iron, all the weight is taken by 4 relatively tiny points, or 2 if you're using it in a way that the case halves will separate easily. The Cap'n I stand corrected. IIRC, Dr. Evil was toying with the idea of making adapters from old tranny cases. |
Dr Evil |
Mar 27 2011, 06:32 PM
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I was, but it was too much work and I am out of cores. Maybe in the future I will make more.
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euro911 |
Mar 27 2011, 11:31 PM
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I went to the site and read about the stand. does the housing have to be a VW bus bell housing or will a reguler bel housing from a porche 914 work as I have a couple. and does year matter. Yes you can use a standard 901 or 915 transaxle to make a Run Stand, however, the bell housing is an integral part of the transaxle on those units.That's the cool thing about the VW Bus bell housing ... it unbolts from the rest of the transaxle. ... and yes, as Krusty pointed out, you'll need one from a 1968-1975 bus. The one I'm currently building will be specifically for T4 engines. |
charliew |
Mar 30 2011, 11:31 PM
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I have a empty t1 tranny that has been cut through the center of the axle holes and the holes in the alxe area is what a angle iron stand bolts to, to make the stand. I was thinking a circular saw might cut the tranny in half once the ring gear is out.
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stugray |
Mar 31 2011, 02:57 AM
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QUOTE I was thinking a circular saw might cut the tranny in half I certainly hope you wouldnt try that on just ANY old porsche tranny ;-) The Magnesium fire might get you into the darwin awards file... Stu |
EdwardBlume |
Mar 31 2011, 06:19 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE I was thinking a circular saw might cut the tranny in half I certainly hope you wouldnt try that on just ANY old porsche tranny ;-) The Magnesium fire might get you into the darwin awards file... Stu We NEED video! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
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