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> Just another damned project thread, 914-6 3.2 conversion in GT dress-up
ConeDodger
post Apr 2 2011, 03:15 PM
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First of all, let me say this: let's not turn this into a 4 vs: 6 thread. I like them both and really don't give a damn about your position on this non-issue.

All the legal stuff out of the way, let's talk engine.

First of all, this project is well advanced. The engine is already together and the 20 minute cam run in has been done. But let's talk about how we got to that point first...

This motor is a 2432 Raby kit. It uses the LE200 heads and stock 2liter cylinders. The stroked crank is 84mm I believe so think of it as a super-stroker. It will run Jenvey throttle bodies and SDS injection. The EFI sensors I have chosen to use will be TPS, CHT, MAP, IAT, O2 in closed loop, and I think that is everything. Injectors are Ford Red Top. This motor requires quite a bit of engine block clearance so as they say, don't try this at home...

It took me about three trips down to Original Customs to put the engine together. I used McMark's shop so I could get his free advice which he of course charges me for, and I don't get distracted by wives wondering how much all of this costs. Plus Mark has an engine break-in stand that allows us to fire it out of the car and correct anything that might be wrong without having to pull an already installed motor.

Here is a dyno sheet of one of these motors that Jake actually built. I would expect that my result might be within 10% of his. :Insert fingers crossed smiley here:


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ConeDodger   Just another damned project thread   Apr 2 2011, 03:15 PM
Jake Raby   This morning in a meeting my team agreed that en...   Jul 27 2011, 12:36 PM
ConeDodger   Rob, You got the only 2432cc kit we ever produced...   Jul 27 2011, 12:43 PM
McMark   It's your fault for adding that AAR. :poke: ...   Jul 28 2011, 12:01 PM
ConeDodger   It's your fault for adding that AAR. :poke: ...   Jul 28 2011, 12:32 PM
wndsrfr   As you're working with the SDS system, watch c...   Jul 28 2011, 08:52 PM
ConeDodger   As you're working with the SDS system, watch ...   Jul 28 2011, 09:23 PM
wndsrfr   "I have heard that about the vacuum signal. I...   Jul 29 2011, 12:31 PM
Randal   As you're working with the SDS system, watch ...   Jul 28 2011, 09:37 PM
Randal   As you're working with the SDS system, watch ...   Jul 28 2011, 09:37 PM
ConeDodger   I found this on the SDS FAQ on their site. This ad...   Jul 29 2011, 09:20 AM
ConeDodger   Below is the procedure from SDS for tuning with TP...   Jul 29 2011, 09:49 AM
dlestep   rob, I'm anxious to hear about throttle respon...   Jul 29 2011, 11:34 AM
mrbubblehead   interesting.....on our ktm v-twin FI motorcycles w...   Jul 29 2011, 11:38 AM
mrbubblehead   we also map each individual cylinder.....unless yo...   Jul 29 2011, 12:00 PM
Jake Raby   The only problem with TP only based set ups is no ...   Jul 29 2011, 12:09 PM
kg6dxn   HEY! Get this thing running already! I w...   Jul 29 2011, 11:05 PM
ConeDodger   Jake, Any idea what kind of vacuum I can expect?   Jul 30 2011, 08:33 AM
ConeDodger   So life has kept us busy lately... New Victoracers...   Sep 11 2011, 11:41 AM
ConeDodger   Time for an update. Mark has pretty much everythin...   Sep 28 2011, 09:38 PM
Randal   Time for an update. Mark has pretty much everythi...   Sep 29 2011, 01:44 PM
ConeDodger   Time for an update. Mark has pretty much everyth...   Sep 29 2011, 09:42 PM
Randal   [quote name='Randal' post='1546428' date='Sep 29 ...   Sep 30 2011, 10:39 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='Randal' post='1546428' date='Sep 29...   Sep 30 2011, 10:11 PM
hydroliftin   This engine will go in the car within the next t...   Sep 29 2011, 02:17 PM
ConeDodger   This engine will go in the car within the next ...   Sep 30 2011, 07:13 AM
Valy   [quote name='hydroliftin' post='1546449' date='Se...   Sep 30 2011, 10:04 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='hydroliftin' post='1546449' date='S...   Sep 30 2011, 10:08 PM
rick 918-S   Is that Grey Shrink tube? :idea: or just the way i...   Sep 28 2011, 09:47 PM
ConeDodger   Is that Grey Shrink tube? :idea: or just the way ...   Sep 29 2011, 07:11 AM
Dave_Darling   Any thought to what happens to the fuel line if th...   Sep 28 2011, 11:03 PM
McMark   When was the last time you heard of a fan belt bre...   Sep 28 2011, 11:11 PM
Dave_Darling   When was the last time you heard of a fan belt br...   Sep 29 2011, 11:17 AM
Marty Yeoman   When was the last time you heard of a fan belt br...   Sep 29 2011, 01:22 PM
Valy   I like the fuel rails you have. Do they accept the...   Sep 28 2011, 11:13 PM
ConeDodger   I like the fuel rails you have. Do they accept th...   Sep 29 2011, 07:09 AM
SCV   Looks fantastic, ConeDodger. Should be a blast to ...   Oct 1 2011, 12:05 PM
ConeDodger   2270 is a great engine. Love the torque. Less shif...   Oct 2 2011, 07:16 AM
ConeDodger   Oh man! Mark is getting so close to running th...   Oct 6 2011, 11:38 AM
r_towle   I am confused...and I admit I did not read the who...   Oct 6 2011, 03:31 PM
ConeDodger   I am confused...and I admit I did not read the wh...   Oct 6 2011, 06:19 PM
Randal   I am confused...and I admit I did not read the w...   Oct 18 2011, 05:57 PM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='1550331' date='Oct...   Oct 18 2011, 10:24 PM
Randal   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='1550331' date='Oc...   Oct 19 2011, 10:52 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='1557364' date='Oct...   Oct 19 2011, 10:57 AM
Eric_Shea   :sleep: let's get a move on here :jerk: How...   Oct 7 2011, 11:56 AM
r_towle   was this new large motor a rebuild of your stock m...   Oct 7 2011, 12:36 PM
ConeDodger   Mark applied power and fuel pressure and nothing l...   Oct 16 2011, 07:16 PM
jsconst   Rob are you going to be at marks tomorrow? If so m...   Oct 16 2011, 09:08 PM
ConeDodger   Rob are you going to be at marks tomorrow? If so ...   Oct 16 2011, 09:37 PM
ConeDodger   So here is the second short video. I am not sure h...   Oct 17 2011, 09:07 PM
McMark   Exciting milestone.... :boing: Most of the tuning...   Oct 17 2011, 09:12 PM
ConeDodger   Oh, and I fixed your YouTube. :evilgrin: Than...   Oct 17 2011, 09:16 PM
McMark   :rotfl:   Oct 17 2011, 09:16 PM
ConeDodger   Here is the tuning profile SDS sent right out of t...   Oct 17 2011, 09:27 PM
sean_v8_914   congrats. that's awesome   Oct 18 2011, 12:10 PM
ottox914   NICE!!!!!!!   Oct 18 2011, 09:23 PM
sean_v8_914   what are you measuring with that Fluke meter in po...   Oct 18 2011, 11:23 PM
ConeDodger   what are you measuring with that Fluke meter in p...   Oct 19 2011, 07:46 AM
sean_v8_914   ps. I Like how she smooths out in the break-in. sh...   Oct 18 2011, 11:26 PM
ChrisNPDrider   :beer2: Awesome news Your 914 was rippin fast whe...   Oct 19 2011, 02:06 PM
ConeDodger   I see DanT lurking. This engine was built with a c...   Oct 19 2011, 03:08 PM
Randal   I see DanT lurking. This engine was built with a ...   Oct 20 2011, 09:27 AM
ConeDodger   I see DanT lurking. This engine was built with a...   Oct 21 2011, 08:35 AM
r_towle   It would be interesting to get it on a dyno just t...   Oct 19 2011, 03:27 PM
Randal   It would be interesting to get it on a dyno just ...   Oct 20 2011, 09:26 AM
ConeDodger   It would be interesting to get it on a dyno just...   Oct 21 2011, 08:51 AM
Randal   [quote name='Randal' post='1558053' date='Oct 20 ...   Oct 21 2011, 10:21 AM
jsconst   Saw your motor yesterday, very impressive. Enjoyed...   Oct 20 2011, 12:08 AM
ConeDodger   Saw your motor yesterday, very impressive. Enjoye...   Oct 20 2011, 07:24 AM
ConeDodger   Note to SDS: Make an ECU that has a USB port that ...   Oct 21 2011, 08:53 AM
brp986s   Can't you use an altitude sensor from '84 ...   Oct 21 2011, 09:20 AM
DNHunt   SDS compensates for altitude. I believe it takes a...   Oct 21 2011, 11:53 AM
ConeDodger   Dave, Thanks for taking time to comment. I know yo...   Oct 21 2011, 12:51 PM
r_towle   So, if you are going out on a short trip...50 mile...   Oct 21 2011, 01:33 PM
wndsrfr   So, if you are going out on a short trip...50 mil...   Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM
DNHunt   First of all Betsy is doing great. She ran the Chi...   Oct 21 2011, 02:28 PM
ConeDodger   First of all Betsy is doing great. She ran the Ch...   Oct 21 2011, 06:56 PM
kg6dxn   Will you stick it in the car already and drive it?...   Oct 21 2011, 10:45 PM
ConeDodger   Will you stick it in the car already and drive it...   Oct 22 2011, 12:06 AM
ConeDodger   Mine has closed loop O2 sensing. Not so sure thoug...   Oct 23 2011, 09:27 PM
ConeDodger   Well let the fun begin! Dwight Mitchell Motor ...   Oct 31 2011, 07:25 AM
FourBlades   That is great, Rob. You are almost there. John   Oct 31 2011, 08:19 AM
ConeDodger   That is great, Rob. You are almost there. John ...   Oct 31 2011, 10:09 PM
rick 918-S   :popcorn: :headbanger: Hey Rob, pm me your addres...   Oct 31 2011, 01:49 PM
ConeDodger   :popcorn: :headbanger: Hey Rob, pm me your addre...   Oct 31 2011, 10:05 PM
Jake Raby   SDS has always been against ITBs on their systems....   Oct 31 2011, 04:09 PM
ConeDodger   Oh cool! The admin fairy fixed my sideways pic...   Oct 31 2011, 09:45 PM
ConeDodger   This is pretty cool! We decided the best place...   Oct 31 2011, 09:58 PM
ConeDodger   Since this engine will be crank fired, we will be ...   Oct 31 2011, 10:02 PM
McMark   Getting closer... :first: We are using AN lines...   Nov 1 2011, 06:42 PM
McMark   Oh, and I hate the red/blue fittings. But it...   Nov 1 2011, 06:50 PM
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