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Boxster motor thoughts, ...again... |
SilverBullet |
Jun 17 2004, 11:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 30-December 02 From: San Jose, Ca. Member No.: 53 |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 17 2004, 07:04 PM) Jason, both the Boxster engine and transmission had "issues"...and about 80k miles (hard from what it sounded like talking to the owner)... the only reason I wanted to transmission was to do some research on a few things (SBC and our aircooled motors)....for a few hundered bucks, I thought it would be great deal for R&D and it wouldn't hurt too bad if it sat around for a while. You got a killer deal and one that a lot of Boxster owners would have loved to get to upgrade thier older Boxsters. One good thing for us (conversion-perversion folks) is that I don't see too many early Boxster and early 996 guys wanting the newer motors with the E-throttle....too much work for them, it's not a true bolt in procedure for the non-E-throttle cars....which means more motors available for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE both the Boxster engine and transmission had "issues"...and about 80k miles (hard from what it sounded like talking to the owner)... Thanks for clarifying Mike. Actually I wasn't too worried about the whole Ebay thing, I was F'ing w/ you. Hell, I'm still in the euphoric state of 3.2L ownership! Each time I step into my garage and look at that engine I get wood. Anyway, as for the E-Throttle you are all talking about: I already have the throttle pedal itself (essentially a plastic pedal with a cable attached), and the guy I bought the engine from (Chris) will be removing the poteniometer from under the dash in the next few weeks. The cable from the pedal will attach directly to the poteniometer, and from there it's all elecrical wire back to the engine. It should be a plug and play sort of deal. It's pretty ridiculous if you stop to think about it: 914 Chassis, Boxster motor, Boxster Trani, Boxster shifter, Boxster throttle, Boxster rear suspension.... I wonder if Chris will sell me the interrior! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
SilverBullet |
Jun 21 2004, 02:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 30-December 02 From: San Jose, Ca. Member No.: 53 |
Since I can't seem to add more than one picture per post:
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SilverBullet |
Jun 21 2004, 02:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 30-December 02 From: San Jose, Ca. Member No.: 53 |
And one more:
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Jeroen |
Jun 21 2004, 03:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
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Brad Roberts |
Jun 21 2004, 06:40 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
It was Amstel light.. I drank them all...LOL Great shots Jason. I figured they would surface sooner or later.
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SilverBullet |
Jun 23 2004, 08:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 30-December 02 From: San Jose, Ca. Member No.: 53 |
QUOTE Great shots Jason. I figured they would surface sooner or later. See, I'm not totally worthless! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) For those of you who were worried about the immobilizer unit on the engine: I spoke with Chris yesterday, and he has already obtained the codes from Porsche. Apparently there are codes for: The engine, the Nav system, and the radio. In order to obtain any of these codes Porsche requires proof of ownership of the vehicle i.e. copy of pink slip. I guess Chris put in a request for all of these codes some time ago. Brad later informed me that Porsche will also release these codes to shops, so it sounds like we have our basis covered. Oh and for those of you interested: Chris is selling the Radio and Nav System too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) **914 with a Nav system?** (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Now on to the next hurdle. |
ArtechnikA |
Jun 23 2004, 08:35 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SilverBullet @ Jun 23 2004, 06:30 AM) **914 with a Nav system?** now -that- would be useful ! something to tell the AAA operator -exactly- where you are when you need that tow ! |
SilverBullet |
Jun 24 2004, 08:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 30-December 02 From: San Jose, Ca. Member No.: 53 |
Haahaa! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Or more importantly telling the State Farm claims adjuster where exactly the charred remains can be found! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
ajracer |
Jan 16 2005, 01:12 PM
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Silver Bullet:
Just came across this thread and some photos. I have been looking at using a boxster tranny in a 914; but looking at my boxster tranny photos regarding the "starter pocket location" and your engine photos I am confused ! Your starter is mounted on top of the engine which leads me to believe teh tranny starter pocket must also be located up there !. BUT my boxster tranny (1998 five spped) has the starter pocket on the lower passenger side about 2" below the centre line of the crank, nowhere near the top of tranny. Please confirm if your tranny in the photos is a six speed or out of another model 996 etc. Thanks and must appreciate your pending reply/info. Allan |
Mueller |
Jan 16 2005, 02:21 PM
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that is due to the transmission housing being used on Audi engines as well...not sure if it's for the inline 4's or V6's or V8 models.... what motor are you going to mate that transmission up to? I'd like to see the modifications or adapter if mating to an air-cooled engine (/4 or a /6) |
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vortrex |
Jan 16 2005, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 24-December 02 From: SF, CA Member No.: 4 Region Association: None |
some guy in NJ posted a week or so ago with the red 914 with the boxster transmission, forgot what motor he was using though.
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Mueller |
Jan 16 2005, 03:07 PM
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3.2 I believe...payed mega-bucks to the shop to install it.....$10K+ just for the install (lot's of fabrication and R&D) |
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ajracer |
Jan 16 2005, 10:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 18-April 04 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 1,945 |
OK, attached is a photo of the Tranny for your consideration and replies.
I got the info from a friend that confirmed it was a Five Speed from a 1998 Boxster 2.5 or 2.7 L. After looking at the tranny case and the numbers located on it indicate it's actually mfg. by Audi/VW and used by Porsche in their Boxsters. As you can see when you compare my photo of the tranny to the rear engine mounting surface in picture listed above these two would definately not mate no matter what type of adapter plate. Appreciate any comments and replies. Thanks Allan Attached image(s) |
neo914-6 |
Jan 17 2005, 01:13 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Allan,
The engine above is 3.2 Boxster "S" and came with an "S" 6-speed. Jason and Darren are transplanting the complete drivetrain including rear suspension. Don't expect a response since they don't log into this site often. You may have better luck with direct email. This tranny thread explains some of the differences so you are correct, the Type 4 will not bolt up. The guy who had a Boxster tranny installed had a later six..here |
Mueller |
Jan 17 2005, 10:21 AM
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the transmission you have will bolt right up to the engine in the picture.......the transmission has multiple thru holes that are not used when mated to the Boxster engine. When used on the Boxster, the transmission does not need a traditional starter "hump" due to it's location on the motor.(and the size of flywheel, plus other factors) The "hump" you see on your transmission cannot be used with any of the flat /4's or /6's unless you have one heck of a short starter (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) You still have not said what motor you want to use. If an aircooled engine, you better have money or access to a machine shop or be a good fabricator (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
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GTeener |
Jan 17 2005, 02:43 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
So... in summary...
There are easier and more cost-effective ways of getting the 914 to go faster. But if you want Boxster performance...buy a Boxster! |
rick 918-S |
Jan 17 2005, 04:19 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,457 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I don't know about all of you but it doesn't look hard to mate the motor to the 901 or the Audi trans to me.
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rick 918-S |
Jan 17 2005, 04:22 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,457 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Show me a side profile of the tranaxle in the picture. |
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Mueller |
Jan 17 2005, 04:26 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
if using the Boxster engine, it makes sense to use the Boxster transmission, I think it would be silly to try and mate any other gear box to it...no reason to unless you want an automatic or the audi gearboxes are totally cheaper and can easily be adapted to it. now for adapting the Boxster transmission to an air-cooled motor, that does seem more logical...I've been looking for a dirt-cheap gearbox to do some R&D on (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) |
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Aaron Cox |
Jan 17 2005, 04:28 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) this would be the hot tip! type IV or aircooled six with a boxter S six speed tranny |
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