914-6 breather/puke bottle install, Any tips/pics? |
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914-6 breather/puke bottle install, Any tips/pics? |
campbellcj |
Apr 18 2003, 09:59 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
I just got some ITG filters and a purty little puke bottle w/ breather. (argh, I need to find a deep 8mm socket to get the friggen stacks off the carbs so I can remove the stock air cleaner base.)
Anybody (JP, Olav, Andy?) have pics of their setup? Does it really matter where the bottle is mounted? |
TimMartin |
Apr 18 2003, 10:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Morgan Hill, CA Member No.: 157 Region Association: None |
This 914/6 GT resource page has tons of pictures some of which show the design and placement of the oil-catch tanks.
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jonlowe/ I looked at them carefully before i went to pick n' pull and osh to get the parts to make my tank .tim Attached image(s) |
Mueller |
Apr 18 2003, 10:44 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
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olav |
Apr 18 2003, 11:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
Here's mine. I think I made it from a RubberMaid...
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J P Stein |
Apr 19 2003, 02:49 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Chris: Look here, scroll down
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t=ST&f=2&t=1254 |
campbellcj |
Apr 19 2003, 09:26 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks once again guys...
Now I almost feel "guilty" for splurging for a nice alloy canister. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 19 2003, 11:00 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
JAZ makes a nice plastic one that has a big K+N filter on it and several "blank" spots for A/N fittings.
Something I dont see... a way to drain it back into the engine. Chris, did you have an issue with oil blow by while driving the car on the track ?? Normally the smaller displacement engines are not that bad with a K+N hanging off the tank. B |
Gint |
Apr 19 2003, 11:06 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm curious. I don't know which line you guys are all sending off to a catch can. My /6 has a line from the top of the tank that goes back to the top of the motor. Are you taking that line off and running it to the catch can? Or is it that vent that I have under the tank that has some stupid filter off of it that has a drain hole in the bottom and leaks oil all over the bottom of my motor? I'll get pics.
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm not gettin it. |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 19 2003, 11:09 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Second line that comes off the oil filler Mikey.. It pukes oil everywhere after 20-30 minutes of hard driving. Most people put a small K+N on the filler line. It doesnt stop the oil vapor from covering the engine.
Your car has a line that runs to the bottom of the air cleaner. B |
Gint |
Apr 19 2003, 11:16 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You mean this one? I don't have any line going to my air filter. I have indiviual K&N's.
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Gint |
Apr 19 2003, 11:20 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Yeah, that's the one that comes off of the filler neck.
I'll have to do something with that as well. I don't want any more oil on the bottom of this thing when it goes back together. I HATE that. |
Lawrence |
Apr 19 2003, 11:20 AM
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[QUOTE]I just got some ITG filters and a purty little puke bottle w/ breather.[QUOTE]
Hi Chris, Got a picture of the ITG filters? -Rusty |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 19 2003, 11:34 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Yep.. Mikey.. that is supposed to go to the bottom of the factory6 air cleaner. If you have the Weber splash shields... you wont have a place to put it.. and you will have to build/buy a splash can.
ITG: Rusty.. I cant find a pic of race engine we have.. We run ITG also. B |
J P Stein |
Apr 19 2003, 11:42 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I looked at a couple-3 stock 6ers over the years prior to doing my conversion. All of them had oil all over the engine compartment. All had a breather/filter mounted on the tank filler/vent .
Each had been modified rather than have the hoses running to the carb air filter. When I did mine, I didn't want oil in the engine room or have it go into the carbs....thus the catch can. During normal street driving, the tank stays dry. When I started seriously autocrossing, it began to pumping out a fair amount of oil.....as much as 6-8 oz per event. High rpms and tank slosh, I figure. As an engine ages overpressure in the crankcase increases.....it's gotta go somewhere. |
Brad Roberts |
Apr 19 2003, 11:45 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I'm lazy. I have a long hose dumping into the rear trunk of the 3.0 914/6. I would rathed clean up the oil vapor mess in the trunk (without carpet) than clean the engine. I clean it before every road course event and it is fine. Not much pukeing going on with the hose from the filler being 3 feet long.
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Lawrence |
Apr 19 2003, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Brad, thanks for checking.
Mikey, when I get home, I'll snap some pictures for you of the stock /6 air cleaner underside. -Rusty |
fuch toy |
Apr 19 2003, 12:23 PM
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What about a firewall mounted bicycle water cage and bottle? The can be easily removed and is secure.
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J P Stein |
Apr 19 2003, 12:41 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
The catch can also needs to be vented.
Without a filter IN the can, oil vapor will vent out of the can... The can will just catch the lumps. I drilled holes in the top of the mixed nuts jar and fitted a piece of foam below them for more flitration.....could be overkill. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
campbellcj |
Apr 19 2003, 04:05 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Lawrence @ Apr 19 2003, 09:20 AM) Got a picture of the ITG filters? Now I do...(crappy pic though, it's very bright out today). Attached image(s) |
campbellcj |
Apr 19 2003, 04:09 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Apr 19 2003, 09:00 AM) did you have an issue with oil blow by while driving the car on the track ?? Normally the smaller displacement engines are not that bad with a K+N hanging off the tank. I ran a stock air cleaner setup last weekend. The ITG's just got here yesterday. The whole car was fairly grimy/oily last weekend, seeing as it was still being wrenched-on about 10 hours before I left for the track. I need to do some thorough "CW" cleaning and then check for leaks, wire chafing, loose clamps, etc. So far so good though...I just got back from a long canyon drive on Mullholland/Decker/Encinal. Zero probs. |
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