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> Probably adding another YEAR to my conversion but...., What do you think?
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post Jun 16 2011, 09:07 AM
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Well, almost done with this conversion (then again, I've been perpetually 'almost done' for 2 years) and the engine will be going in sometime in the next 2 weeks. 2.7 made into 2.9, carbs, engine rebuild about 15k-20k miles ago, etc, etc.

Ok, lets just make a few assumptions for a moment. Suppose that I have a few parts that I just found in a bin, and also, suppose that in that bin there happens to be a Clewett engineering crank trigger system with the coil packs. Should I supposedly add it to my project? Any feedback on this system? Likes? Dislikes? Is this too much for the street?
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post Jun 16 2011, 11:07 AM
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If you keep the carbs I say keep the dizzy and drive the heck out of it. If you choose to go FI that's another story..
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post Jun 16 2011, 11:23 AM
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Why would you not????

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post Jun 16 2011, 11:25 AM
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I'd keep the dizzy, it's reliable and works well, adding additional electronics just adds additional headaches. Nice system but it won't really help out all that much. Just make sure the dizzy is in good shape, no excessive wobble etc. I know Ron Slitts can get them rebuilt pretty inexpensively, might want to call him.

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post Jun 16 2011, 02:21 PM
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I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 01:21 PM) *

I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Motor with carbs = more greenhouse gasses + more money out of your pocket due to rotten gas mileage plus you can't go to the RRC as you would have to retune the carbs to make 13.5K feet.

Crank triggered ignition is really spiffy ... dead ass on & no spark scatter + the electromotive system is a "wasted spark" system.
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 16 2011, 03:33 PM) *

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 01:21 PM) *

I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Motor with carbs = more greenhouse gasses + more money out of your pocket due to rotten gas mileage plus you can't go to the RRC as you would have to retune the carbs to make 13.5K feet.

Crank triggered ignition is really spiffy ... dead ass on & no spark scatter + the electromotive system is a "wasted spark" system.



Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be making it to RRC this year Slits, the Rennsport Reunion is like a month after that, and closer.
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My vote is 100% add the crank-fire ignition.


If you're keeping the carbs, take all the ignition help you can get.
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What she said.
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QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 04:27 PM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 16 2011, 03:33 PM) *

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 01:21 PM) *

I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Motor with carbs = more greenhouse gasses + more money out of your pocket due to rotten gas mileage plus you can't go to the RRC as you would have to retune the carbs to make 13.5K feet.

Crank triggered ignition is really spiffy ... dead ass on & no spark scatter + the electromotive system is a "wasted spark" system.



Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be making it to RRC this year Slits, the Rennsport Reunion is like a month after that, and closer.


I'd rather go to RRC .... no matter how bad the hotel is that Silva arranges.
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QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 04:27 PM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 16 2011, 03:33 PM) *

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 01:21 PM) *

I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Motor with carbs = more greenhouse gasses + more money out of your pocket due to rotten gas mileage plus you can't go to the RRC as you would have to retune the carbs to make 13.5K feet.

Crank triggered ignition is really spiffy ... dead ass on & no spark scatter + the electromotive system is a "wasted spark" system.



Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be making it to RRC this year Slits, the Rennsport Reunion is like a month after that, and closer.

RRC, RRC, RRC. No admission, fantastic cars, great entertainment and a good group of people. (I've got friends in low places, sing it) And probably the number one reason to go. You won't see any Rolexes at RRC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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If your doing carbs (& cams), keep the dizzy & add an MSD 6AL set-up.....hi-vibration coil, Magnacore 8.5 mm wires, & NGK copper plugs gapped to .045-.050.

The Ford coils don't have enough voltage to burn thru the rich mixture provided by carbs....but hay, what do I know? Ask a real expert. I'd recommend Steve Wiener.

BTW, are you sure you want a 2.9L? If you already have it, forget I asked.
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Jun 17 2011, 07:24 AM) *

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 04:27 PM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 16 2011, 03:33 PM) *

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Jun 16 2011, 01:21 PM) *

I'm inclined to keep the dizzy and I totally agree about the reliability, it's proven.

I wonder what the gains would be under a motor with carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Motor with carbs = more greenhouse gasses + more money out of your pocket due to rotten gas mileage plus you can't go to the RRC as you would have to retune the carbs to make 13.5K feet.

Crank triggered ignition is really spiffy ... dead ass on & no spark scatter + the electromotive system is a "wasted spark" system.



Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be making it to RRC this year Slits, the Rennsport Reunion is like a month after that, and closer.

RRC, RRC, RRC. No admission, fantastic cars, great entertainment and a good group of people. (I've got friends in low places, sing it) And probably the number one reason to go. You won't see any Rolexes at RRC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Hell yeah ya'll .... they don't serve chilled Cassadores either. Also, our women are real and not siliconed, tucked, botex babies.
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If you have one, add the Electromotive ignition - the spark is truly dead on every time (if you check with a timing light, you might be surprised at teh difference). You can always all the crank trigger wheel and sensor mount, and all the rest in the future if you want.

I have had this system for years and it does a very nice job on my 2.7 with Webers.
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