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post Sep 30 2011, 02:04 PM
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Rewax it.

If that doesnt work, use some rubbing compound by hand then rewax it.


I did both and no luck.

They are still shown. will try again later. the only thing that seems to make a difference is wet sand and is taking a long time.
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post Sep 30 2011, 05:49 PM
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I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.
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post Sep 30 2011, 07:07 PM
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Paul,
Does the front valance your using flare to match your fenders? Where did you get that valance?

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post Sep 30 2011, 08:29 PM
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Paul,
Does the front valance your using flare to match your fenders? Where did you get that valance?

Kev



It was donated to me by a local member, It seems to fit nicely. I will ask him more info.
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post Sep 30 2011, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Sep 30 2011, 07:49 PM) *

Pic?

I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.



Andrew,

There was no run on that area, here is a pic of the area in question, this picture was taken after 1500 grit sand. what do you think?


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post Sep 30 2011, 09:31 PM
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How many coats of paint do you have on that fender? Looks like you sanded through various coats and might have to repaint that quarter panel. A thought to conside. Jim

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Pic?

I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.



Andrew,

There was no run on that area, here is a pic of the area in question, this picture was taken after 1500 grit sand. what do you think?


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post Sep 30 2011, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(jim dorociak @ Sep 30 2011, 11:31 PM) *

How many coats of paint do you have on that fender? Looks like you sanded through various coats and might have to repaint that quarter panel. A thought to conside. Jim

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Pic?

I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.



Andrew,

There was no run on that area, here is a pic of the area in question, this picture was taken after 1500 grit sand. what do you think?


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oops! Yes i have a couples of coats there. That may be the issue . You are right .
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post Sep 30 2011, 10:26 PM
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That looks really wierd... What was your flash time? How heavy did you lay the coats?

Looks like different coats and they didnt stick well.

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post Sep 30 2011, 10:32 PM
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That coat was given a few weeks after the original paint. As efforts to take care of the drips . It does not peal off . And its not shown when the car is wet . I am windering if it will not show when waxed .
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Hmm. Really odd... Looks like those are different layers that are not working together properly..
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post Oct 1 2011, 08:15 PM
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Hmm. Really odd... Looks like those are different layers that are not working together properly..


I try to wet sand with 1000 and it didnt work,
I tried 800 and it is working so far. I am keeping my fingers cross, hopefully I will not hit the primmer.
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post Oct 1 2011, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(ppetion @ Sep 30 2011, 07:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Sep 30 2011, 07:49 PM) *

Pic?

I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.



Andrew,

There was no run on that area, here is a pic of the area in question, this picture was taken after 1500 grit sand. what do you think?


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That stain isn't a stain. If you look closely you can see the top layer, and the bottom layer seperated by a thin glossy strip of orange paint.

When you repainted the areas that you sanded through after you shot it the first time, did you just paint the area you sanded through and then blend the color into the surrounding area? Or did you do 2 or 3 full coats over the entire panel in question?

As a painter, to me that pic looks like you sanded through in an area after the first time shooting it, and then you simply did a spot repair and didn't repaint the entire panel.

If this is what you did, you can't do that in single stage. You can with basecoat/clearcoat (2 stage) to a point. But then you have to use cutting clear and prep the repair area a very specific way.

My advice, sand the panel untill that effect is completely gone, sand the entire panel with 600 wet sandpaper and reshoot the ENTIRE panel.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Good luck bro!

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post Oct 2 2011, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(CrashDown @ Oct 2 2011, 12:37 AM) *

QUOTE(ppetion @ Sep 30 2011, 07:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Sep 30 2011, 07:49 PM) *

Pic?

I doubt you stained the paint..

Runs leave a "stain", that could be what your seeing.. I have a couple of stains in my paint from where I sanded out runs, and no one but me sees them...

Just food for thought.



Andrew,

There was no run on that area, here is a pic of the area in question, this picture was taken after 1500 grit sand. what do you think?


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That stain isn't a stain. If you look closely you can see the top layer, and the bottom layer seperated by a thin glossy strip of orange paint.

When you repainted the areas that you sanded through after you shot it the first time, did you just paint the area you sanded through and then blend the color into the surrounding area? Or did you do 2 or 3 full coats over the entire panel in question?

As a painter, to me that pic looks like you sanded through in an area after the first time shooting it, and then you simply did a spot repair and didn't repaint the entire panel.

If this is what you did, you can't do that in single stage. You can with basecoat/clearcoat (2 stage) to a point. But then you have to use cutting clear and prep the repair area a very specific way.

My advice, sand the panel untill that effect is completely gone, sand the entire panel with 600 wet sandpaper and reshoot the ENTIRE panel.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Good luck bro!

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I guest I will respray. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Oct 2 2011, 08:41 AM
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It's a learning experience dude. The next time you shoot a car there are gonna be less mistakes. We all go through it.

Good luck!
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:22 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Well painted again, I didn't have to paint the hoods and engine cover since they were all painted in one shot and they look great.


I sanded the whole car less hoods and engine lid with 600 grit, I did not get to the primer and shoot, It looks great...
this time there was no drips, no overspray. I feel like a pro.

Here are the new pics.

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post Oct 2 2011, 05:14 PM
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post Oct 2 2011, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(esses62 @ Oct 2 2011, 09:08 PM) *

Hey Paul, good thing you bought 5 gallons of hugger orange (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

LOl , I still have half a gallon left, I know you are jocking, but I actually bought 2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Hell ya!

Feels good doesnt it! Congrats man! You might not even have to wetsand and buff this time!
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post Oct 2 2011, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 2 2011, 09:21 PM) *

Hell ya!

Feels good doesnt it! Congrats man! You might not even have to wetsand and buff this time!
Oh yeah, The only reason I will buff and wet sand lightly is because already did on the trunk. but I will not be doing that much just to match the texture on the trunk.

Thanks for all your help.
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