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POLO Engined 914? |
71six |
Aug 29 2011, 04:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 4-July 03 From: Fitzwilliam,NH Member No.: 884 |
Has anyone built a 914 with the Polo four cylinder engine made by Advance Performance Engineering? Looks ideal for a teener (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
Mark |
type47 |
Aug 29 2011, 05:08 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
link to pics and info?
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VaccaRabite |
Aug 29 2011, 06:49 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
http://www.advanceperformanceeng.com/about_us
It has been talked about in the past, when his engines were strictly 1 off pieces. When I saw this thread I thought you were talking about the engine out of a VW Polo. I had to google Advance Performance Engineering. I am guessing that they have all the $$$ features of a 6 conversion with 2/3rds the power of the 6 conversion. In other words, I don't see the point of it in a 914. Zach |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 29 2011, 09:55 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh, the Popolous engine! Yeah, those are really really cool. More expensive than a Six as I recall, and you still have most of the same issues you get with a Six. (Mounting, oil tank, cooling tin, etc.) And you get about 2/3 of the power of a Six. They're designed for spaces which are too tight for a 911 engine (e.g., the engine bay of a 356) without modification, and they work amazingly well there.
Not much point to doing one in a 914, though. You could do a Six for less money and get more power. So unless you're after the "wow factor" (which is certainly a valid reason!) I would skip it. Looks like most 914 owners feel that way, too. --DD |
SirAndy |
Aug 29 2011, 11:00 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
When I saw this thread I thought you were talking about the engine out of a VW Polo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Me too ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) As for the engine above, i would tend to agree that for the same money (or less) you can get a real /6 engine with more power. Unlike the 356, the 914 engine compartment was designed for the /6 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
71six |
Aug 29 2011, 01:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 4-July 03 From: Fitzwilliam,NH Member No.: 884 |
I think the compelling reason for the conversion would be the fact that it is over 100 lbs lighter than a six and can generate over 200hp reliably. This would equate into better weight distribution plus perhaps one would be able to run various wheel/tire combinations due to better front/rear weight bias. Also reinforced 901 transmission would be sufficient.
Mark |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 29 2011, 01:14 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You could be the first! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
A 3.0 with carbs and headers can pull a very strong (torque) 200+ HP reliably as well. Engineered by Porsche in the 914-6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
VaccaRabite |
Aug 29 2011, 01:23 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Don't get me wrong, its way cool.
Just not for a 914. Our engine bays are BIG and the added weigh of the "extra" two cylinders does not hurt much being low and centered. In a bug, or a 356, or a 904 kit that would be killer, assuming you had the bankroll. Zach |
mepstein |
Aug 29 2011, 01:40 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,271 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Because it's kewl.
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JmuRiz |
Aug 29 2011, 01:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm guessing this came up due to the Pelican Parts thread where someone is putting one in his 912.
They were first created to make a hot motor for outlaw 356s that didn't want to hack up the chassis. The lower weight is awesome, but the cost is staggering. |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 29 2011, 01:59 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That guy's a customer... in Denver. Custom calipers all around. All sorts of little tricks in that build.
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rohar |
Aug 29 2011, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
The punch line is that the VW Polo 1.4 can be tuned to the same HP for much less money. And they fit in a teener without cutting any of the rear sheet metal.
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JmuRiz |
Aug 29 2011, 02:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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nein14 |
Aug 29 2011, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 838 Joined: 6-February 03 From: USA Member No.: 262 |
Because it's kewl. That is the Ultimate Cool conversion but if money were no object I would twin turbo charge it!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
Elliot Cannon |
Aug 29 2011, 02:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I saw these at a booth at a swap meet once. It was $25,000.
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SirAndy |
Aug 29 2011, 03:32 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I saw these at a booth at a swap meet once. It was $25,000. For that money you could weld two 3.6L /6 together and make it a flat 12 with 600HP!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
CMONNETT |
Aug 29 2011, 04:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 27-September 07 From: Cibolo, TX Member No.: 8,162 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The Polo engine looks cool in a 356, but it's what you call cubic dollars.
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VaccaRabite |
Aug 29 2011, 06:53 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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nsr-jamie |
Aug 29 2011, 09:30 PM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
That is super cool !! I think it would be cool to have a lot more power yet still keep it a 4 cylinder car and the cooling fan is sweet too...but not sure about the cost...if I were rich I would love one of those engines, heck I would probably have a bunch of 914's and sixes as well.
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