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> Joes 2056 build thread, Its Driving again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Sep 12 2011, 04:32 PM
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I have been searching all the 2056 threads. Their should really be a 2056 for dummies thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I plan on building a 2056 D-jet from my stock 2.0 1973 motor. I have been collecting parts since 2009 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Here is what I got so far:

2.0 motor (havent split it yet)
D-Jet system off my 73
4 cleaned & Tested injectors
new wiring harness from bowlsby
new tps board
new hoses
rabby 9550 cam kit
1.8 rockers and swivel feet
aa 96mm cylinder & pistons

I might be forgettin a few things, it has been a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

The heads should be sent out within the week to be checked and prepared with new seats, valves, etc. And I will be splitting the case open this week also. All the cool kids are doing it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What other thing do I need to purchase as I begin???

gaskets, bearings, flywheel ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

also what tools are required other than the basic tools?

I never done this before
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post Sep 12 2011, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Sep 12 2011, 03:32 PM) *

1.8 rockers and swivel feet

I think you want the 1.7 rockers to go with the Rabby cam.

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What other thing do I need to purchase as I begin???

Beer, sealant and tools. I would also plan for a new clutch.

And those injectors... if they've been waiting too much time, you may have some surprises.

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post Sep 12 2011, 06:10 PM
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I think these days you will need to buy a "cam kit" from Jake. That will include everything you need to do the job. You will also need to budget for lot's of machining. You may consider things like:

* Full flow
* Type I oil pump
* External Oil Cooler
* Complete Gasket Kit
* Cam and Main Bearings
* Rebuild the heads with SS valves, upgraded springs, and keepers
* Dynamic balance of all components
* Resurface flywheel
* Replace clutch and pressure plate (prior to balance job)
* Does your MPS hold vacuum?
* Got all the tools to do the job?
- Head CC'ed
- Valve train geometry
- Deck Height
- Torque wrenches (including inch pound)

No wonder my garage is so full...



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post Sep 12 2011, 07:36 PM
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I think Joe got the cam kit, not just the cam.

You need an engine seal kit.
I'd not bother with the external cooler now. That can be added later, if needed.

You need an engine stand with a VW/Porsche adapter. If you don't have one, you can borrow mine as I am not using it.

You will probably need new main bearings. If cam bearings did not come in the cam kit, you need them too.

If Jake still offers this service, consider sending your rotating mass to Jake to have it dynamically balanced. Also, I had Jake fit the bearings properly to my case. You can do this yourself, but I felt better having a pro do it for me.

If you don't want to spend the money to ship everything to Jake, or he no longer offers this service, call Mark at Warrior Motors in Red Lion. I've had him do a bunch of work for me and he is a good machinist and an honest dude.

If you need special tools, ask me before you buy anything. I may have it. I also have Jakes engine video. Swing over and borrow it if you don't already have it.

Lots of shop rags and carb cleaner. Lots.

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post Sep 14 2011, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(Valy @ Sep 12 2011, 07:46 PM) *

I think you want the 1.7 rockers to go with the Rabby cam.


Yup, thats what I meant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)

I just shipped my heads today, Now I need to watch Jakes video. I bought it a few years ago. Havent watched it yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


I am excited now
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:36 PM
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adding to the list...

victor reinz gasket set for a 2.0

engine stand (40 bucks) harbor freight (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Yoke (borrowing from Zach)


I also stripped the engine down last night on the floor of the garage. I have to still remove the pistons, and the oil pump, but thats it. Its basically ready to split. I figured I should wait to put it on the stand before i split the case. But what do I know.


once split, what is my next move?

ship the case crank rods flywheel off to get them balanced and new berrings put in??

...remember.... i am learning.....

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post Sep 21 2011, 02:22 PM
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Joe when you get your rotating assembly balanced be sure to have your clutch pressure plate balanced too. It will likely be out more than the other components.

BTW, your heads look great now that the blue paint has been removed. There actually was a very nice pair of castings under all that paint and grime!
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:24 PM
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you dont need an engine stand. my yolk is welded to an engine stand. Save yo dough yo!

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post Sep 21 2011, 02:48 PM
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You'll need a dial indicator for setting the valve train geometry, and an adjustable pushrod. You'll need a calculator, and pen and paper for recording everything. You probably don't have a screwdriver wide enough to tighten the oil relief valve (I didn't). I made one from the end of an old file. You'll need lots of patience. Clean your glasses, cause you're gonna do lots of reading. And that beer? Leave it in the frig till you put the cover back on the engine after each time you work on it.

I spent a year building your exact engine. It now has 300 miles on it. It has no oil leaks, and just screams compared to the 90 hp, 2.0. 3rd gear acceleration is more than I ever dreamed of. My bro says it rivals his 78 911. I really doubt that, but it is quick.

Good luck. Hope ya have as much fun as I did.
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post Sep 21 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Sep 21 2011, 04:22 PM) *

Joe when you get your rotating assembly balanced be sure to have your clutch pressure plate balanced too. It will likely be out more than the other components.

BTW, your heads look great now that the blue paint has been removed. There actually was a very nice pair of castings under all that paint and grime!


I am sooo glad they came out good. I was nervous sending them to you in such (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) condition.

Cant wait to see them. (insert picture here)

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post Sep 21 2011, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Sep 21 2011, 04:48 PM) *

You'll need a dial indicator for setting the valve train geometry, and an adjustable pushrod. You'll need a calculator, and pen and paper for recording everything. You probably don't have a screwdriver wide enough to tighten the oil relief valve (I didn't). I made one from the end of an old file. You'll need lots of patience. Good luck. Hope ya have as much fun as I did.


1) what kinda dial indicator? harbor freight mabey?
2) i have the adjustble pushrods from Jake
3) borrow a calculator from my daughter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
4) My wife thinks I have a very large screwdriver (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
5) Patience... I started collecting parts for this build 3 years ago

Thanks for the advise
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post Sep 21 2011, 04:48 PM
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I don't know if anyone mentioned a rear main seal. They aren't in the gasket kit. I can't remember if the front seal is in there or not.

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post Sep 21 2011, 05:01 PM
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I bought mine at hf, but I got the better one.
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I have an adjustable push rod and dial indicator. Borrow them when you borrow the engine yolk and stand. You will also need my ring compressor.

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post Sep 22 2011, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Sep 21 2011, 09:47 PM) *

I have an adjustable push rod and dial indicator. Borrow them when you borrow the engine yolk and stand. You will also need my ring compressor.

Zach

I can stop by Sunday Morning about 10:30am on my way to work. Cant stay long though.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Sep 21 2011, 09:47 PM) *

I have an adjustable push rod and dial indicator. Borrow them when you borrow the engine yolk and stand. You will also need my ring compressor.

Zach

I can stop by Sunday Morning about 10:30am on my way to work. Cant stay long though.

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QUOTE(DNHunt @ Sep 21 2011, 06:48 PM) *

I don't know if anyone mentioned a rear main seal. They aren't in the gasket kit.
Dave


Got it ! thanks for the heads up, it was not in the kit.


More items to add to my collection:

1) Keith Black Hypereutectic Cast 2.0 2056 96mm Pistons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

2) Rear main Seal

3) Cap / Rotor / WR-7s

4) Magnecor Wire Set



sounds like my next step is to box up all my rotating pcs and send them off to Jake for balancing. And send my case off to Rimco to have it inspected and the galley plugs tapped. I will also check with local shop to measure my AA jugs for roundness. I might get the phone number of your guy Zach.

Does this sound like I am going in the right direction??

comments welcomed

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post Oct 6 2011, 11:08 AM
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These just came today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Sure r purdy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)


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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Oct 6 2011, 09:08 AM) *

These just came today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


hmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) , from Jake?
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