 Rover V8 Conversion - It's DONE!, Video added |
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| Cheapsnake |
 Sep 23 2011, 07:51 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 15-November 07 From: Door County, WI Member No.: 8,341  |
What started out as a quick restoration of a '73 2.0 for my wife's summer drive has turned into a 3 year restoration and V8 conversion. Even though there's a few quirks to work out, I'm sticking a fork in it and calling it done.
 The finished product. This car started out as the usual rust case, with the typical longitudinal and hole from hell replacements. I also stiffened the tub with 16 ga. sheet wrapped around the rear corners. Cosmetically, the PS sail panel and door jamb and were pretty much eaten away and that was replaced. The driver's side wasn't quite as bad but had a couple holes rusted through forward of the door. Oh yeah, both doors were caved in and creased. Front trunk floor wasn't quite rusted through but I replaced it anyway. I found out after I had gotten into it that the car had taken a front and rear hit. The repairs were typical collision shop repairs (patch it up and get it out of here). There didn't appear to be any structural distortion. Paint is a good 5 footer, did it in my garage.  5 lug conversion, boxed trailing arms and 225x15 Falkens on Fuchs all around. Fiberglass flares were an absolute PITA. Bought one set here on the forum that did not fit at all. After days of fitting and a gallon of Rage Gold, I tore them off and replaced them with another set that fit much better. In hindsight, I would definitely have paid the price for steel and saved a lot of time. Being a cheap bastard, I tried to use as much of what I have and that included the sail panel trim, which was dinged and and scratched like most of it is. I sprayed it with Krylon Hi heat paint and buffed it out to look almost like black chrome. I actually like the look better than the original.  Interior is pretty much stock except for the console. I replaced the black vinyl with brushed aluminum and installed Auto-Meter gauges, volts, oil pressure, and water temp. Believe it or not, that's the original carpet. That stuff is indestructible. The little box at the botom of the console is the Megajolt programmable controller for the ignition system, very cool system from a bunch cool young car guys.  Now for the good stuff. A Rover 3.5L all aluminum V8. I always thought this was an ideal match for the teener. Stock, it puts out 152 HP. I put 4.0 heads and headers on for a boost in compression and better flow, and a 282 cam. Air/'fuel is via a stock intake manifold and Quadrajet carb. I was tempted to do a Holley but the Quadrajet is perfect. Desktop Dyno calculates just over 200HP. Not bad, double the HP with no weight penalty. The red thing you see just forward and to the left of the air cleaner is where the dizzy used to be. I replaced it with a Ford EDIS ignition system in order to keep the engine as far forward as possible without cutting into the bulkhead. The stuff you see on the left side is the coil pack, one for each cylinder. A trigger wheel and sensor was added to the harmonic balancer. Everything mounts up to the stock 901 with a Kennedy adapter. I was obsessed with keeping the axles as close to original location as possible to minimize angular deflection so I also eliminated the water pump pulley to avoid cutting into the bulkhead or moving the engine back. I kept the water pump and removed the pulley and gutted the vanes, save a good 1 1/2". An electric water pump serves the purpose. In the end, I was able to keep the axles within 3/4" of the stock location. I'm happy with that.  Cooling is via an aluminum radiator, vented out the fender wells on either side. I originally ran the cooling lines, Gates 1 1/4" Green Stripe through the longitudinals and origianl heat ducts, but that turned out to be a baaaad idea. Getting past the gas tank and making the sharp bends necessary makes the install a real PITA and severely restricts flow when it's all done. Seemed like a good idea at the time but, I ended up rerouting everything down the centerline and live happily ever after. The black box in front of the gas tank is the heater core and fan from a Ford Taurus. I've got a Merdedes WS washer pump to pump cooling water through the core. Ducting heat into the cabin is a challenge. All in all, I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out but never imagined it would take as much time, energy and $$$$$ to get it done, famous last words. This project started out as my wife's summer drive, but turned out to be more of a drive than she cares for. Driving impression: it's a blast. The Rover is a quick revving engine anyway, but mated to the original light clutch and flywheel, it's got instant throttle response. Unfortunately, you have very little flywheel effect to get you off the line so you need to have some revs to avoid killing the engine, but once you're going it's a very streetable car. And the sound from these little V8's is sooooo sweet. And, of course, since there hasn't been much weight added, aside from the radiator and plumbing, the same great handling characteristics remain. After three years of late nights, skinned knuckles and bad tempers, I;m happy. Tom Attached image(s) 
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| racerbvd |
Sep 23 2011, 08:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,368 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Sunny FL. Member No.: 226 Region Association: None |
Nice job!!!!
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| Krieger |
Sep 23 2011, 08:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,712 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None 
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Very nice! It doesn't look like it took very long...maybe a couple of long weekends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Andyrew |
Sep 23 2011, 09:01 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Great looking conversion!!!!
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| rick 918-S |
Sep 23 2011, 09:05 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,462 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Finished just in time to store it for the winter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| Dr Evil |
Sep 23 2011, 09:10 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I am glad you did this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Inspirational (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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| Tom_T |
Sep 23 2011, 09:35 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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Looks great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Now the question is.......will the wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) .....or you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ... I could venture a guess on that one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| 914.SBC |
Sep 23 2011, 09:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 12-December 10 From: CORONA, CA Member No.: 12,479 Region Association: None |
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CHEERS...very impressive. |
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| nsr-jamie |
Sep 23 2011, 09:47 PM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
Excellent!!
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| Ferg |
Sep 23 2011, 09:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Nice! What color is that? It looks real good on a 914.
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| patssle |
Sep 23 2011, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Very nice.
I'm curious though, why that engine over a Porsche 3.0L or 3.2L for similiar HP? Is it cheaper, or just something different to do? |
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| speed metal army |
Sep 23 2011, 10:32 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
Nice work!Cool new angle on a motor I never actually thought of! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Nicely installed too....
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| Mike Bellis |
Sep 23 2011, 11:19 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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Congrats! Enjoy it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Elliot Cannon |
Sep 23 2011, 11:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(patssle @ Sep 23 2011, 08:50 PM)  Very nice. I'm curious though, why that engine over a Porsche 3.0L or 3.2L for similiar HP? Is it cheaper, or just something different to do? Yes. and Yes. Nicely done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (And I don't even like V8 conversions). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| BajaXJ92 |
Sep 24 2011, 04:48 AM
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Extended Member Group: Members Posts: 2,146 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Prescott, AZ Member No.: 5,895 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Very nice car.
I used to own a Land Rover Discovery, and if that 3.5L sounds anything like my 4.0L V8 did, you've got a great sounding car! Love the color too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Cheapsnake |
Sep 24 2011, 07:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 15-November 07 From: Door County, WI Member No.: 8,341 |
QUOTE(Ferg @ Sep 23 2011, 07:50 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Nice! What color is that? It looks real good on a 914. Ferg The color is Arizona Mist Metallic from TCPGlobal. It's a single stage urethane, which I thought would be more forgiving than a base coat/clear coat job for an amateur. If I had it to do again I'd go the bc/cc route, easier to fix mistakes on metallics. I have almost the same color on my Cobra and loved it so figured, why not? QUOTE(patssle @ Sep 23 2011, 07:50 PM) Very nice. I'm curious though, why that engine over a Porsche 3.0L or 3.2L for similiar HP? Is it cheaper, or just something different to do? Good question. I fell in love with these engines in my TR8. It's a proven design that goes back to the Buick/Olds Pontiac 215 of the early 60's. In fact, it's virtually the same engine. Despite it's low tech design, it's capable of some pretty impressive output. The 1965 F1 Championship Brabham was based on this engine. They are very responsive and rugged engines. Yes, I did look at the Porsche V8's and they are tempting since they come with the power I was looking for right out oif the box. However, when I factored price, parts availabilty, upgrade potential and familiarity into the equation, the Rover won out. That, and the fact that I had one sitting in the corner of th shop begging for a home. Oh yeah, did I mention the sound? Closest thing to a Ferrari exhaust note you'll get this side of Beverly Hills. I've got some video with sound that I'll post as soon as I can get some time. Tom |
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| Cheapsnake |
Sep 27 2011, 07:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 15-November 07 From: Door County, WI Member No.: 8,341 |
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| Bartlett 914 |
Sep 27 2011, 09:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Very nice. Great sound also.
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| jimkelly |
Sep 27 2011, 09:30 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
wow - looks great - sounds great - jim
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| jim_hoyland |
Sep 27 2011, 09:36 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,301 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Thanks for sharing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Terrific build and video
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