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dian
post Sep 25 2011, 11:07 AM
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hi yall

can a supercharger be put on a 74 2.0 l fi car? anybody seen one, done it? thanks.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(dian @ Sep 25 2011, 09:07 AM) *

hi yall

can a supercharger be put on a 74 2.0 l fi car? anybody seen one, done it? thanks.


Back in the early-mid '90s there was a shop in the Port Orange/South Daytona area that did it a few times. The intake runners from the stock injection where used with a 66CID roots style blower & a big carb. IIRC, the blower made ~6lbs of boost and the engine put out maybe ~175hp. It's a pretty low tech setup when you consider the hotrod parts, engine managment systems, and information that we have access to now, but this was super badass back in the day. One of the supercharged cars this shop built made it into a VW & Porsche magazine. I have a scan of the article I can post if anyone wants to see it.
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post Sep 25 2011, 12:58 PM
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:08 PM
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Here you go. My current project car is one of the supercharged cars that came from this shop. The motor in mine was blown up and is long gone, tho. I've seen 2 more of the cars recently that are still on the road. Anyway, here is the article.

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post Sep 25 2011, 01:15 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing more on how the belt drive was set up.
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:28 PM
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Here's another photo that shows a little more of the belt:

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post Sep 25 2011, 01:29 PM
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That's darn cool, I really like the oil cooler setup too (with a stoneguard it may just work for me...hmmmm).
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:30 PM
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Interesting! Interesting! I can see "the black EVIL ARTS of the good Dr. Evil working overtime on this subject". Old technology but still provides additional dependable horsepower.

Need to learn more about this.
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post Sep 25 2011, 01:47 PM
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I always liked the idea of running a Kompressor on a T4.

I think it would be a perfect match ...
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post Sep 25 2011, 02:28 PM
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Mercedes c230 has a good, cheap and plentiful donor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I intend to put one on the bus some day....way in the future.
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post Sep 25 2011, 02:59 PM
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I just posted the other day in another thread:

It would be interesting to put a toyota 6 cyl, front wheel drive engine (camry, solara) in the rear of a 914.

You can put on a TRD supercharger for under $2500 and have >250 HP.

I always wondered if I could fit a 6cyl transverse automatic in the 914....

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post Sep 25 2011, 04:13 PM
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It seems like a hard way to accomplish something. But, I like innovation so please do it and document it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 25 2011, 04:16 PM
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How does this drive off the engine? I still don't get that, and would like to see it. Interesting the old school belt- non-ribbed, and the slight amount of wrap on the SC drive pulley. The 4 rib we use on the 240 HP miata I've been codriving for autocross this season has a ton of wrap and is about at its limit- more boost will require us to go to a 6 rib.

Something like that would be interesting with SDS or megasquirt to control spark and some fuel injectors mounted in the factory runners. Wonder if we could design an A/W intercooler/plenum to go under the s/c and pump up the boost...

(still like the 914 > miata for autox, but it was a fun co-drive for this season)
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post Sep 25 2011, 07:54 PM
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You could use the crank pulley for the smog pump to drive the SC
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post Sep 25 2011, 08:37 PM
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Awesome!!!! I have been looking for this article for years. I remember reading it and keeping the mag for future reference, but after about 5 moves, it is long gone.

Thanks for the scan!
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post Sep 25 2011, 09:57 PM
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Use a pulley like the one I am using on my A/C setup. I believer they were for bus / type 4 engines.
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post Sep 25 2011, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 25 2011, 12:47 PM) *

I always liked the idea of running a Kompressor on a T4.

I think it would be a perfect match ...
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+1

And all the low end torque problems go away.

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post Sep 25 2011, 10:20 PM
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Use a pulley like the one I am using on my A/C setup. I believer they were for bus / type 4 engines.
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Problem solved. Nice setup.
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post Sep 25 2011, 10:42 PM
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Yes, Jay at RPM did some very cool stuff back then.. I use to go to his shop with Phil..
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post Sep 25 2011, 10:46 PM
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How well does it fit the firewall?

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