 914-6 experts whats up with this six? |
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| pete000 |
 Sep 28 2011, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States  |
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-car...2-914-6-fs.html
This appears to be a 72 and sure looks to have all the correct signs its a real 6. Even has the undercoating on the shock towers. It has a 914-4 vin number. |
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| Jeffs9146 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:10 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Its not a real 6! It could be chopped front 4 and back 6 but it is not legaly a 6!
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| jcambo7 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I don't know much but the whole story seems fishy to me. Nothing about it sounds right.
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| Eric_Shea |
Sep 28 2011, 10:14 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I'd say check for signs of a front end graft.
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| pete000 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
I was wondering about a front end graft as well. Looks to be green orig paint through out though.
Did the sixes ever have ac as an option, front trunk seems to be cut for a condenser. Seems like an odd bird. |
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| jcambo7 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Link for 914/6 info
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=74301 - it should have a flat /6, 2.0L motor (doh!) - firewall center engine mount - no /4 mounts - factory oil-tank - different relay board - "hook" for the oil-line on drivers side rear long - 911 style ignition switch and column for '70/'71 models - *no* hole in the front trunk for the /4 air hose to the spare tire - black "tar" around the front upper shock towers - different windshield washer bottle - electric washer pump - real 5-lug axles - "914-6" badge - handthrottle in front of the shifter - different throttle cable routing, using a tranny mounted pivot - different paint code on the karman badge - different VIN, starting with "914" (doh! again) - no rain-tray under engine lid. - Dash top has no center vent some more stuff Brakes were mentioned as being different. To elaborate further, the /6 has a 19mm MC and the /4's have a 17mm. The /6's have vented front rotors and larger calipers in the front right from the 911T. The /4's are solid rotors and smaller calipers. The rear rotors and calipers on a /6 are larger and unique /6 components. They are not interchangeable with a /4 without a major overhaul. The e-brake system is shared between the /6 and /4 for the early years. Visually, don't forget that the steering column on a six is unique to itself. Other than the horn pad everything is different including the 3 speed wiper arm on the right side of the column. The early /4's have a knob on the dash panel. And we can't forget the gauges. Nothing is shared with any of the /4's. At the time of introduction, any of the 5-1/2 inch wheels (steel, chrome, Fuchs 14" and Mahle's) supplied by Porsche for a 911 would fit the /6. Remember the best tire size of the day for Porsche was a 185/70. Also, the transmissions were different. The /6 had 3 different gears. 2nd, 3rd, and 5th. |
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| Eric_Shea |
Sep 28 2011, 10:32 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The more I look at that the more it REALLY puzzles me. I'm maybe shooting for stolen six with a VIN swap. Even the VIN has the green though.
Everything about that car says "six" except the VIN tags. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Wow... |
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| Eric_Shea |
Sep 28 2011, 10:32 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I asked the seller to post the chassis number stamped in the trunk floor.
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| jcambo7 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Sep 28 2011, 11:32 PM)  The more I look at that the more it REALLY puzzles me. I'm maybe shooting for stolen six with a VIN swap. Even the VIN has the green though. Everything about that car says "six" except the VIN tags. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Wow... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Freaking weird. From reading the tech articles it says its a "six" but sounds screwy. |
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| avidfanjpl |
Sep 28 2011, 10:43 PM
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914 Hemophiliac Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Bear, Delaware Member No.: 11,566 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I see all kinds of very questionable things in these pictures. This seems to me to be a conversion or a cutup.
I have seen many strange things, but unless this was going back to Germany, it would have a hard time passing muster for a World Teener that has owned one in 6 or 4 version for a while. We all see strange things, and I agree that the frontend VIN is 72, but there is no center dash vent. Strange flesh at best. It will be interesting to see if Eric gets a response. It came onto Samba.com today or at least very recently. John |
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| pete000 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
As far as I can see it seems to have whats on that orig 6 list.
I can see the hand throttle and unique gauges, no center vent etc... I guess only the car knows what happened to it self... Must have been a rebuilder from way back? I remember seeing this one on the Sambe a while ago. If you look at teh vin tag in the nose it looks to have been removed and re rivited back on. Wonder about the door jam decal. I imagine long gone. Good call on the rear trunk vin, but it looks like in one photo the floor might be gone or replaced. It looks to be black from under side shot?? |
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| scrz914 |
Sep 28 2011, 10:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
Pretty sure I've seen this one for sale before, a couple of years ago. IIRC the seller at that time said it was an early conversion with all the correct six parts. No one seemed to bite on it though.
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| bandjoey |
Sep 28 2011, 11:26 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Did a 6 have 2 fuel lines ? See the pic with the fuel pump connection and 2 plastic fuel lines - one plugged up??
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| ArtechnikA |
Sep 29 2011, 03:50 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Sep 29 2011, 01:26 AM) Did a 6 have 2 fuel lines ? |
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| mepstein |
Sep 29 2011, 04:35 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,317 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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The same car sold on Pelican last year for ~$5,500. I talked to the guy. He's a small shop that resells cars. I think these are even the same pics from the previous sale. It was pretty much decided that this was a rebuilt 6 on 4 chassis.
Makes sense if you total your 6 to rebuild on a 4 chassis. I don't think anyone is claiming it's a real 6. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914...92-914-6-a.html http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-car...roject-car.html |
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| MikeSpraggi |
Sep 29 2011, 06:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Silver Spring, Md Member No.: 3,570 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Right tach, wrong speedo on that car.
I have a /6 with a /4 front end graft. Every component on the car is a /6. Titled as a /6. The two previous owners stated what happened to the car when advertised for sale, so there were no "unknowns" about the car. The graft is very clear (and done very well) when the carpets are removed. Sale price was based on that history. No monkey business to try and remove/hide/change the /4 VIN on the front fender. It is what it is ....... FUN! |
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| 6freak |
Sep 29 2011, 07:04 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(MikeSpraggi @ Sep 29 2011, 05:14 AM) Right tach, wrong speedo on that car. I have a /6 with a /4 front end graft. Every component on the car is a /6. Titled as a /6. The two previous owners stated what happened to the car when advertised for sale, so there were no "unknowns" about the car. The graft is very clear (and done very well) when the carpets are removed. Sale price was based on that history. No monkey business to try and remove/hide/change the /4 VIN on the front fender. It is what it is ....... FUN! I agree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) chock lever is there thats a good clue..but the rear bumper is wrong, prolly swapped |
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| pete000 |
Sep 29 2011, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
This car would be a fun one to strip down to metal to see just what happened way back when.
The rear floor looks like it was added ? the grime does'nt seem to match the rest of the chassis? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 29 2011, 09:59 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
When I lived in LA I did 2 swaps from rusty and otherwise compromised 6s into 4 chassis. Bought one of the 6s from Otto. Crashed in the front. Lotta work, but I did EVERYTHING, even the wiper harness connection under the dash. This could easily be a car done like that. Not one of mine, though.
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| JmuRiz |
Sep 29 2011, 11:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Good point.
Interesting car for sure...lots of cool parts on it. Personally, I'd love to have the left-hand key and steering wheel column of a real 6...but I think the $$ needed to do so is prohibitive. Heck I'd settle for just the left-hand key, but I don't know of a cheap way. |
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