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bellows - do these seem good or bad ? |
jimkelly |
Oct 8 2011, 06:57 AM
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jaxdream |
Oct 8 2011, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
Hold a hair dryer on em for a bit , or put them into a pan of boiling / near boiling water to see if they expand. Unless they are leaking the liquid inside it's hard to tell , of course there may be a overall length cold vs hot that's some where in some archives. Others will chime in .
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gasman |
Oct 8 2011, 08:29 AM
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They are all no good...they are expanded. They should be compressed and expand when heated.
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VaccaRabite |
Oct 8 2011, 10:11 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Test with boiling water to find out. My guess is that 2 of 3 may be fine.
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jimkelly |
Oct 8 2011, 10:12 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
as soon as my wife leaves the house - they are getting boiled - but not sooner : ))
pics to come. looks like you need a special very narrow open end to get the off a rusted bracket. |
913B |
Oct 8 2011, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 25-April 05 From: South Bay/SoCal Member No.: 3,983 Region Association: None |
I call dibs on the working one of course
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Valy |
Oct 8 2011, 11:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,675 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
A new thermostat is about 35mm long. When it hits its target temperature it measures about 46mm long and continues to expand until it's 55mm long. That's how much the cable that controls the flaps moves.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.ratwell.com-11573-1318093318.1.jpg) http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Thermostats.html The 46mm measurement also appears in the Porsche repair manual page 3.3 - 2/4 |
jimkelly |
Oct 8 2011, 11:10 AM
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pic of my 3 and ruler
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jim_hoyland |
Oct 8 2011, 11:28 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,301 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
One type of bellows has 10 rings and another has 12 or 13; make sure you are comparing apples to apples.
Forgot which type is from the 914... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
jimkelly |
Oct 8 2011, 11:34 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
you guys are making it tough for me to sell crappy parts : )
i just removed this one off a 2.0 i have laying in my garage. Attached image(s) |
jimkelly |
Oct 8 2011, 12:00 PM
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boil test pics
goldielocks likes the one on the left, not sure about the one in the middle, but would trash the one on the right. jim Attached image(s) |
pilothyer |
Oct 8 2011, 02:36 PM
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I'll Pay shipping for the bad ones......Jerry
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Porschef |
Aug 3 2012, 05:14 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
I have one on the way from Clark at Awesome powder coating. Warranty is void if it is not used in the factory bracket to control over expansion. Installing your's in a bracket would also serve to show full travel. The two I have appear to be torn.
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Mark Henry |
Aug 3 2012, 06:28 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Warranty is void if it is not used in the factory bracket to control over expansion. Installing your's in a bracket would also serve to show full travel. The two I have appear to be torn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You should never do these tests without it in the bracket, you run a very good chance destroying the thermostat. |
reharvey |
Aug 3 2012, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 16-July 08 From: N. E. Ohio Member No.: 9,308 Region Association: North East States |
Warranty is void if it is not used in the factory bracket to control over expansion. Installing your's in a bracket would also serve to show full travel. The two I have appear to be torn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You should never do these tests without it in the bracket, you run a very good chance destroying the thermostat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Been there---Done that |
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