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75 914 Idle, My 1.8 won't idle. |
skiking |
Oct 12 2011, 04:05 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 15-September 09 From: Rapid City Member No.: 10,811 Region Association: None |
I started up my 1975 914 1.8 recently after not driving it for a number of months. It started fine, but when the idle speed dropped down after startup, it quit. I took it out for a 15 mile drive thinking it might help, but still won't idle. It seems to run fine other than that. The last time I had it out previous to this, it idled fine. If idle speed adjustment is the fix, I can probably handle that. My only concern is if this is part of a bigger problem as I plan on taking it on an 800 mile trip soon. It's been tuned up by a trusted mechanic (who's 300 miles away) in the last 1500 miles. All thoughts and suggstions appreciated!
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Black22 |
Oct 12 2011, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Check all vacuum lines and the AAR.
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jsayre914 |
Oct 12 2011, 04:48 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
you never mentioned if it was L-jet or carbs.
If L-Jet, does it idle fine if you back the idle screw out a bit?? |
skiking |
Oct 13 2011, 01:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 15-September 09 From: Rapid City Member No.: 10,811 Region Association: None |
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PDXMike |
Oct 13 2011, 02:08 PM
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Slowly Learning Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 20-December 10 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 12,501 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I had the same problem. Vacuum leak. Don't forget the intake manifold hoses. After replacing all other vacuum lines and hoses, the intake manifold hoses finally fixed mine.
Of course, they were simply the last thing I got to, so everything else was probably contributing. But if all else fails, replace the intake manifold hoses. $4 each. |
skiking |
Oct 14 2011, 08:57 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 15-September 09 From: Rapid City Member No.: 10,811 Region Association: None |
I had the same problem. Vacuum leak. Don't forget the intake manifold hoses. After replacing all other vacuum lines and hoses, the intake manifold hoses finally fixed mine. Of course, they were simply the last thing I got to, so everything else was probably contributing. But if all else fails, replace the intake manifold hoses. $4 each. Are those hoses the same braided cover rubber hoses as the other vacuum hoses? Did you buy the hose material in bulk and cut to length, or buy premade? Thanks! |
jsayre914 |
Oct 14 2011, 09:19 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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PDXMike |
Oct 14 2011, 09:27 AM
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Slowly Learning Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 20-December 10 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 12,501 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I bought the intake manifold hoses cut to length from Pelican. $4 each, $16 total. They went on very easily.
The rest vacuum (and fuel) hose layout is here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_...4_18fi_diag.htm I bought a vacuum hose kit from AA but was disappointed as I felt that it was incomplete. You might be better off just buying hose separately. The link above includes a table showing everything you need. You're going to have trouble finding 18 and 22mm hose. That's why I bought the kit from AA, but then it didn't come with the 22mm hose anyway and I had to reuse my old 22mm one. I just put hose clamps on the ends and it seems to be OK. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 14 2011, 12:09 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
also, seals in the oil fill cap or even a spent cork seal for the oil fill tower.
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PBC914 |
Oct 14 2011, 02:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 12,545 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
remember to replace the rubber seal on the filler neck base and the paper seal on the gas cap top.
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rgalla9146 |
Oct 14 2011, 09:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,559 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
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skiking |
Oct 17 2011, 05:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 15-September 09 From: Rapid City Member No.: 10,811 Region Association: None |
I bought the intake manifold hoses cut to length from Pelican. $4 each, $16 total. They went on very easily. The rest vacuum (and fuel) hose layout is here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_...4_18fi_diag.htm I bought a vacuum hose kit from AA but was disappointed as I felt that it was incomplete. You might be better off just buying hose separately. The link above includes a table showing everything you need. You're going to have trouble finding 18 and 22mm hose. That's why I bought the kit from AA, but then it didn't come with the 22mm hose anyway and I had to reuse my old 22mm one. I just put hose clamps on the ends and it seems to be OK. Thanks, Mike! You mention you were unhappy with the AA hose kit - I'm curious what that was lacking besides the breather? |
partwerks |
Oct 19 2011, 10:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 7-September 06 From: Grand Island, NE Member No.: 6,787 |
Back in the day when I had my 1.8, I believe the problem was the "o" ring under the oil fill cap? I would try and replace that first.
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skiking |
Jul 14 2012, 04:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 15-September 09 From: Rapid City Member No.: 10,811 Region Association: None |
I bought the intake manifold hoses cut to length from Pelican. $4 each, $16 total. They went on very easily. The rest vacuum (and fuel) hose layout is here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_...4_18fi_diag.htm I bought a vacuum hose kit from AA but was disappointed as I felt that it was incomplete. You might be better off just buying hose separately. The link above includes a table showing everything you need. You're going to have trouble finding 18 and 22mm hose. That's why I bought the kit from AA, but then it didn't come with the 22mm hose anyway and I had to reuse my old 22mm one. I just put hose clamps on the ends and it seems to be OK. Thanks, Mike! You mention you were unhappy with the AA hose kit - I'm curious what that was lacking besides the breather? Mike, i don't know if you'll get this email, but I thought I'd try. I've replaced all vacuum hoses with the (4) intake manifold hoses remaining to be installed. You mentioned they went on easily - would you mind letting me know how you removed the old and installed the new? Thanks, Robbie |
JawjaPorsche |
Jul 14 2012, 06:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
Skiking:
To replaced the intake hoses you need to remove your injectors (mark injector wires so you won't hook up wrong when you reassemble), remove the manifold nuts (see grey nuts in picture below) and the remove the intake manifold, my old manifold hoses were like a rock when I removed them! To replace simply side on. While I had the intake manifold off I replaced the gasket too. Here is gasket link on Pelican: http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/...75%29%2C%20each Since you have the injectors off, consider replacing the fuel injector seals. They are real cheap and easy to replace: http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/...76%29%2C%20Each I also sanded and repainted the manifolds with Engine Enamel paint! Really dressed up the engine! See picture below. Hope this helps, Terry Note: My manifold hoses are silicone which I got from a fellow 914Worlder. I bought the intake manifold hoses cut to length from Pelican. $4 each, $16 total. They went on very easily. The rest vacuum (and fuel) hose layout is here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/technical_...4_18fi_diag.htm I bought a vacuum hose kit from AA but was disappointed as I felt that it was incomplete. You might be better off just buying hose separately. The link above includes a table showing everything you need. You're going to have trouble finding 18 and 22mm hose. That's why I bought the kit from AA, but then it didn't come with the 22mm hose anyway and I had to reuse my old 22mm one. I just put hose clamps on the ends and it seems to be OK. Thanks, Mike! You mention you were unhappy with the AA hose kit - I'm curious what that was lacking besides the breather? Mike, i don't know if you'll get this email, but I thought I'd try. I've replaced all vacuum hoses with the (4) intake manifold hoses remaining to be installed. You mentioned they went on easily - would you mind letting me know how you removed the old and installed the new? Thanks, Robbie Attached thumbnail(s) |
kbrunk1 |
Jul 14 2012, 09:59 PM
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Brunk Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Dallas,Texas 73 2.0 FI Member No.: 13,778 Region Association: South East States |
Have you read this? Not exact engine but good info!
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kbrunk1 |
Jul 14 2012, 09:59 PM
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Brunk Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Dallas,Texas 73 2.0 FI Member No.: 13,778 Region Association: South East States |
Have you read this? Not exact engine but good info! http://www.rennlist.com/techarticles/djetronicfuel.htm |
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