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| seanery |
 Apr 26 2003, 11:30 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey!  Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None  |
Hi all,
Well I'm in Sunny SoCal and picked up my car yesterday. The parts haven't shown up for the side shifter conversion but I'm fumbling my way around with the car...man it's F'd up (the shifter). I drove from Marina Del Rey to Pasadena last night and something weird happened. I turned the heater on before I got off the 110 and about a mile down the road I turned the right turn signal on and "whizzack" the radio went off, the tack dropped to 0, the genny light came on. A couple seconds later the radio comes back and the tack and the gennie light dims a bit. Put my foot on the brake and no tack, radio, lights.... I haven't gone through the car since I got here (Pasadena) but I'm hoping its fuses or the gennie belt (I doubt this one, though). Does anyone have the correct order for the fuses on the block under the steering wheel? If so please give size/color starting at driver's left and move right. I'm not so sure the sizes are correct on this car ('72 with a carb'd 2.0 installed) Thanks All!!! |
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| Gint |
Apr 26 2003, 11:36 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Just stop at FLAPS and get fuses. Find a piece of sandpaper somewhere and start cleaning fuse contacts in the box and the fuse ends. Replace fuses as necessary.
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| tryan |
Apr 26 2003, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
got meter?
i would pry the regulator open. (someone posted napa sells them, but i olny buy there in desperate situations) pelican won't let me into the 914 diagram. i'll try the 924. the gen should be the 9th moving left to right? |
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| seanery |
Apr 26 2003, 12:48 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Does anyone know what size the fuse is?
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| tryan |
Apr 26 2003, 01:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
pelican is down. i seach on renn or shop talk. start with an 8 and see if she blows. it should not take may amps to excite the gen.
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| krk |
Apr 26 2003, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
From Haynes, 1972, USA
1 High beam left 2 High beam right 3 Low beam left 4 Low beam lrifht 5 Parking light, left 6 Parking plate light 7 License plate light 9 Stop, turn and backup lights 10 (Fog lights) 11 Interior light, warning light, buzzer 12 Retractable hedlight motor Caveates: No values give for the fuses (I'm looking at the wiring diagram) 8 is missing (dunno what that means) I'm guessing it's left to right, but the book doesn't actually seem to say. There is a pic that seems to say that the lights are on the left. hth. kim. |
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| krk |
Apr 26 2003, 01:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
From the shop manual -- there are two diagrams for a 72.
The second one has: 8 Fresh air fan,horn, windshield wipers, cigarette lighter. Dunno why there's two. Still no fuse values. hth. kim. |
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| tryan |
Apr 26 2003, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
check the power relay on the relay board (wiggle the feed from the hot side / unfused of #11 on the fuse panel)
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| Aaron Cox |
Apr 26 2003, 01:47 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
roadglue.com has one listed be back in a min,
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| Aaron Cox |
Apr 26 2003, 01:48 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
S1 8 Amp
Left headlamp, high beam High beam indicator lamp S2 8 Amp Right headlamp, high beam S3 8 Amp Left headlamp, low beam S4 8 Amp Right headlamp, low beam S5 8 Amp Left parking lamp Front side marker lamp Left stop/rear lamp Rear side marker lamp S6 8 Amp Right parking lamp Right stop/rear lamp Rear side marker lamp Front side marker lamp S7 8 Amp Clock illumination lamp Oil temperature illumination lamp Voltmeter illumination lamp Rear luggage/engine bay lamp Rear license plate lamps (2) Defroster lever illumination lamp S8 16 Amp Cigar lighter Heater control assembly illum. lamps (3) Fresh air blower indicator lamp Fresh air blower motor Windshield wiper motor S9 8 Amp Alternator charge indicator lamp Low fuel warning lamp Fuel gauge Oil pressure indicator lamp Tachometer Left/right rear stop lamps Left/right back-up lights Oil temperature gauge Voltmeter gauge Clock S10 16 Amp Parking lamps indicator lamp (on dash) Left/right fog lamps Horns S11 8 Amp Hazard flasher indicator lamp (dash) Turn signal indicator lamp (dash) Parking brake warning indicator lamp (dash) Left/right, front/rear turn signal lamps Speedometer illumination lamp (2) Fuel gauge illumination lamp Tachometer illumination lamp (2) Temperature control illumination lamp Interior cabin light (backpad) S12 16 Amp Left/right retractable headlight motors (2) Front fuse on voltage regulator plate is not used. S13 25 Amp (rear fuse on voltage regulator plate) Heater fan motor Fuel pump Rear window defroster Auxiliary air regulator Items not fused Fasten seatbelt lamp on dash Fuel injection ECU Starter motor Ignition switch Headlamp switch Fog lamp indicator lamp (dash) Seat belt warning buzzer |
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| Aaron Cox |
Apr 26 2003, 01:49 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i dunno if this will help as its for a 74. Its the only reference i know of other than the manual.
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| Anton |
Apr 26 2003, 01:54 PM
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Royal Orange Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 25-March 03 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 473 |
QUOTE(seanery @ Apr 26 2003, 09:30 AM) If so please give size/color starting at driver's left and move right. 1=8 A Grey 2=8 A 3=8 A 4=8 A 5=8 A 6=8 A 7=8 A 8=16 A Red 9=8 A 10=16 A 11=8 A 12=16 A Still, I don't think you had a current "steal" because of oxydized fuse contacts but that you have a faulty connection or relay somewhere. Now would be a good time to buy a multimeter if you don't already own one... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| tryan |
Apr 26 2003, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
while your at the auto parts, get 4 small hose clamps. where the tail shifter arm comes out of the tranny, slip a hose clamp around the four sides where the shift rod ball fits in. it might get rid of enough slop to make it driveable 'till you get the side shifter in.
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| Doug Leggins |
Apr 26 2003, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,358 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Nashville, Indiana Member No.: 261 Region Association: None
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From a 1970 owners manual:
1 8 amp left headlamp high beam 2 8 amp right headlamp high beam 3 8 amp left headlamp 4 8 amp right headlamp 5 8 amp left parking lamps 6 8 amp right parking lights 7 8 amp license plate lights 8 25 amp windshield wipers, ventilator, horn, cigarette lighter 9 8 amp flashing turn indicators, stop lights, back up light 10 8 amp additional headlamp 11 8 amp emergency flashers 12 25 amp pop-up headlamps, inside light |
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| MarkV |
Apr 26 2003, 02:33 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
Owners’ manual from 73 is the same, all 8amp except #8 & #12, they are both 25amp.
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| seanery |
Apr 26 2003, 03:00 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the replies everyone!
I have a multimeter, but it's in Indy. I'll go suss it out and see how she goes. |
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| boxstr |
Apr 26 2003, 04:07 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sean, Sorry to read about a problem so early. There is a fuse on the battery, the PO had a stereo place install the radio, I found it when the radio stopped working, fuse was blown. Replaced, okay.
I thought the side shifter was done?? CCLINDAMPCAMP |
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| Brad Roberts |
Apr 27 2003, 01:40 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I dont want to be a DICK.. but where did you have this car worked on ??
Sideshift conversion missing everything should take ..oh about 8 hours to complete. The I would have driven the car for a week back and forth to the shop BEFORE you showed up to drive it. 2000 miles....LOL Whats UP ?? B |
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| East coaster |
Apr 27 2003, 04:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 28-March 03 From: Brigantine, NJ Member No.: 487 Region Association: None 
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Check your grounds, especially if someones been messin' with your tranny. I had similar problems with a 914 I had until I found that someone had left a ground off.
Good luck! |
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| seanery |
Apr 27 2003, 10:08 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
It's not my mechanic's fault.
I bought the parts from someone else early in April and they simply haven't shown up yet. I guess he(the seller,not my mechanic) said they were shipped via US Mail/Parcel Post. So, I really may never see them! I'm trying to weigh my options, I can prolly find all the parts in SoCal, but I hate buying shit twice, especially since I know I'm not gonna be doing another side conversion anytime soon after this one. James' shifter even may work on a sideshifter? I dunno, I don't really have a time when I HAVE to leave LA. I'm working in Anaheim W,T & F, hopefully the parts will show up before then and I can drop the car back off. It'll work out somehow! |
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