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V8 starter..., What to use? |
Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 12:33 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
So.... Brad, you said that a 914 starter just wont do it... Ok..
All you v8 guys.. What are you running starter wise? 911? (will it bolt right up?) High tq, lightweight starter? Other? Danke Andrew |
SLITS |
Aug 7 2004, 12:39 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I don't own a V8 914, but get one of the $200 Nipondenso Gear reduction w/new nose high torque starters - it will turn it.
Some are made my R&B Performance - Parker, AZ. |
Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 12:47 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Will a 911 starter work?
I can buy a 911 starter for sub 50 bucks... hopefully or a high tq starter for 130 bucks currently, If the 911 starter will work... I'll buy that.. Anyone running a 911 starter? Andrew |
skline |
Aug 7 2004, 01:14 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I am running a High torque gear reduction starter like the one Slits is talking about. Its the same one I ran on my 2270. It had a lot of compression and I figured it wouldnt hurt to run it on that but when I sold it, I took the starter off and gave the guy a stock starter which worked just fine.
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Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 01:22 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I know, I know.... but someone currently just statched up the high tq starter that I was going to pick up...
Will a 914 starter, start the v8? Will a 911 starter work for a couple months? Eh? Andrew |
ArtechnikA |
Aug 7 2004, 04:55 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
there are at least two early 911 starters - the 'regular' one and the 1,5HP one.
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Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 09:33 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
What about the later starters? Will they work?
Im thinkin 80's... Andrew |
neo914-6 |
Aug 7 2004, 01:30 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
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Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 02:31 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I've got everything... (well, once I scamper over to steves house to pick up a small few items..)
I Just need to know if an 80's 911 starter will work fine (and bolt up..) Brad? I know you told me earlyer that I need at least a 911 starter... Comments? Andrew |
SLITS |
Aug 7 2004, 03:14 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Use the 1.2 kW 911 starter. The stock starter is 0.7 kW.
Porsche alternated years in which they used them. I can't check until Monday for actual dates. |
Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 03:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Aight, I'll do a search for the info.
Thanks slits. |
bryanthompson |
Aug 7 2004, 03:27 PM
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Check it out... 3 loops! Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 23-April 04 From: elwood, ne Member No.: 1,970 |
I don't know if this will help you or not:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/r...ramblings-1.htm Has a lot of info on which years/models used which starters. |
Andyrew |
Aug 7 2004, 09:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the link! Just what I needed to see.
Oh and incase your wondering.. This was why I needed to know... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:MEWN:IT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andrew |
johnelliott |
Aug 8 2004, 02:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Carlsbad, CA Member No.: 2,483 |
Kennedy makes one that works, but they (the owner especially) are very difficult to deal with and the unit is very heavy. The first starter they sent did not work and they charged me a restocking fee to get a second one. (I was in a hurry and went along with their garbage.) The second worked for years with a Chevy.
Next time I plan to visit a custom starter place near by and see if they can't put something together for me. Larger Bosch starters would work in warm climates with low compression, but they do strain with a race engine. |
mayord2001 |
Aug 9 2004, 03:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-October 03 From: monroe, ga. Member No.: 1,231 |
A 911 starter will work for several weeks to a few months but you will need one of the high torque /reduction units if you want longevity and reliability.
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datapace |
Aug 9 2004, 04:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 19-January 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 1,579 Region Association: South East States |
I agree about the gear reduction starter. Used a pick-and-pull 930 starter, even with a fully charged battery it couldn't turn over my 327. Got a Tilton gear reduction starter and it worked like a champ the first crank. It was several years ago, the starter was about $200 or so.
-datapace |
rick 918-S |
Aug 9 2004, 08:33 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,452 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
My 928 motor has 10:1 compression. 911 starter spins it fine. $ 50.00 no core charge from Oklahoma foriegn
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ArtechnikA |
Aug 9 2004, 08:49 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rich 918-S @ Aug 9 2004, 06:33 PM) My 928 motor has 10:1 compression. 911 starter spins it fine. and this is where the discussion gets interesting... the 928 engine has some pretty interesting cams that help it make power at rpm ranges most 6-liter engines don't run. big duration camshafts tend to lower the dynamic compression ratio at cranking and idle speeds. the 1,5HP "turbo" 911 starter was made to start an engine with 6,5:1 static compression. the numerical compression ratio is only part of the equation - the camshafts play a big part in determining the absolute cylinder pressure at cranking speed - which is all the starter motor sees ... |
Andyrew |
Aug 9 2004, 09:44 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Well I have about 9:1 compresion ratio.. tad over stock. So, we'll see how it goes...
I have plans on going with a big ol high tq, gear reduction starter, but currently I couldnt pass up the 911 starter for 25 bucks total... We'll see if it works... (heck, im going to try and start the sbc with my 914 starter.. lol, maaaybe... hopes and prayers.. and alot of battery juice.. Andrew |
SirAndy |
Aug 9 2004, 09:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,631 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Aug 9 2004, 08:44 PM) I have plans on going with a big ol high tq, gear reduction starter, but currently I couldnt pass up the 911 starter for 25 bucks total... what you need is one of those ... Attached image(s) |
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