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> Six vs. Four, make a decision
make a choice and your claim
make a choice and your claim
Any four [ 17 ] ** [4.86%]
2.0 four [ 43 ] ** [12.29%]
BIG four [ 87 ] ** [24.86%]
Small six [ 25 ] ** [7.14%]
Mid six [ 84 ] ** [24.00%]
BIG six [ 52 ] ** [14.86%]
Why not, V-8! [ 20 ] ** [5.71%]
Electric [ 2 ] ** [0.57%]
Alternate conversion motor [ 20 ] ** [5.71%]
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Jake Raby
post Jul 21 2010, 04:54 PM
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Everything is more expensive today.. Even a Big Mac.

Fact is prices have risen because of shitty parts and parts supply more than anything else, and they will continue to do so, especially with things like main bearings becoming non existent along with pushrod tubes and etc.

The economy hasn't really effected our sales, but it has killed several parts suppliers and their ability to keep items on the shelf.. We can't even get what we need to build engines in some instances.
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post Jul 21 2010, 05:34 PM
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I know people are leaning towards 3.6 and 3.8's now but I am still planning on putting a 3.2 box stock with Motronic in my car. I want something with moderate power and torque that is rock solid and reliable. The 3.2 seems to fit that criteria according to the many people with which I have spoken. So unless something changes by the time I get around to actually building the car, it will be a 3.2. Besides, I am old and do not plan to be racing the car anywhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 21 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 21 2010, 03:54 PM) *

Everything is more expensive today.. Even a Big Mac.

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They are only 2 for $3.50 here in SoCal ....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)!!!

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post Jul 22 2010, 09:21 AM
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I'm glad this topic won't ever die (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 27 2010, 12:05 PM
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To bad Raby's getting fed up with the fickle 914 niche.


I vote Bastardization. Because a real heater and A/C are critical when convincing the better half to go on a long drive.

I chose A EZ36d out of a late subaru Tribeca or legacy. This is if money isn't an object.
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post Jul 30 2010, 05:09 AM
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QUOTE(Ductech @ Jul 27 2010, 03:05 PM) *

To bad Raby's getting fed up with the fickle 914 niche.


I vote Bastardization. Because a real heater and A/C are critical when convincing the better half to go on a long drive.

I chose A EZ36d out of a late subaru Tribeca or legacy. This is if money isn't an object.


A real heater? Wow, mine cooks you out in 5 minutes of driving even in the winter in Seattle when its 20F out.
AC, open the window or take the top off.
Now if I ship my 914 to Suriname I will install AC as its Hot and Humid here -95f and 90% Humidity.

My wife likes to drive the 914 on our trips as she zooms along passing everyone. She doesn't look at the speedo just says "It wants to go faster so I just go!". No tickets so far.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

If I want Japanese I will buy Japanese....Like the stupid heavy Altezza I am driving now..POS.
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 21 2010, 04:34 PM) *
I am still planning on putting a 3.2 box stock with Motronic in my car.

That's a very good choice for a 914. I really like that combo for our cars ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

In fact, i was going to do just that until Bill Pickering made me an offer on his 3.6L package deal that i simply could not refuse.

Damn you Bill!
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:44 AM
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yep, the 3.2L setup is sweet and perfect for our cars. Then you have to spend the money to setup the rest of the car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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post Jul 31 2010, 02:22 PM
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I found out in the 70's I could run the hell out of jap motorcycles and the same thing was the norm for jap cars for me since 77 and non of them leaked oil. The motorcycles were kwasaki's and then hondas and the cars were toyotas mostly. I appreciate any motor that can be run hard and doesn't leak oil from it's seals and doesn't need a byannual going over. The fords and chevs always needed valve cover gaskets or pan gaskets and my air cooled vw's always marked their spot somewhere under the motor or tranny.

I have found though that a turbo suby looks almost as oily as a air cooled vw after about 100k if the oil breather system isn't monitered.
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post Jul 31 2010, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ductech @ Jul 27 2010, 11:05 AM) *

To bad Raby's getting fed up with the fickle 914 niche.


I vote Bastardization. Because a real heater and A/C are critical when convincing the better half to go on a long drive.

I chose A EZ36d out of a late subaru Tribeca or legacy. This is if money isn't an object.


Not fed up at all, just not wasting time helping people understand why the should stay with a -4 engine. I gladly work with those who choose our way.

BTW it was 103f here today, I drove Beth's 79 vert with T4 power(roller cam 2270) 80 miles to a meeting. The AC system kept the Cockpit just as comfortable as my Boxster or 996. In the winter the A/C system is converted to produce killer heat.

She is an accountant and drives this car anywhere she wants, (her commute is 79 miles daily) I have put 3k miles on it in 6 weeks myself since my 912e is down for updates.. Just because you stay T4 doesn't mean you can't have modern amenities on a longer drive.

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post Nov 16 2010, 08:28 PM
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A nice four banger is lighter and a lot more simple.
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post Nov 20 2010, 06:57 PM
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head says big four but heart says mid six so i voted and bought a mid six. nothing will compare to the roar of the triple webers and whine of the big fan behind my head (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 20 2010, 06:59 PM
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The answer is obvious - 1 of each. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 07:48 PM
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When it's time for my rebuild I'll go big 4 because:
  1. My car has the original GA engine and I'd like to keep it that way
  2. I can keep the rest of the car the way it is and just bolt up the big 4
  3. I am familiar with the 4 and how to maintain it
  4. It's the cheapest way to put HP in the car and stay aircooled

I definitely want a six someday...but it will come with a 73 911T wrapped around it!
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post Jul 20 2011, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(rwilner @ Jul 20 2011, 06:48 PM) *
I definitely want a six someday...but it will come with a 73 911T wrapped around it!

Yepp, them 911s make great donors! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(rwilner @ Jul 20 2011, 05:48 PM) *

When it's time for my rebuild I'll go big 4 because:
  1. My car has the original GA engine and I'd like to keep it that way
  2. I can keep the rest of the car the way it is and just bolt up the big 4
  3. I am familiar with the 4 and how to maintain it
  4. It's the cheapest way to put HP in the car and stay aircooled
I definitely want a six someday...but it will come with a 73 911T wrapped around it!



When it was time for my 2.0 to be rebuilt, Jake talked to my wife about a rebuild of my existing 2.0. The very next day I had a 3.2 on the way to my house...

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post Jul 21 2011, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 20 2011, 07:18 PM) *

QUOTE(rwilner @ Jul 20 2011, 06:48 PM) *
I definitely want a six someday...but it will come with a 73 911T wrapped around it!

Yepp, them 911s make great donors! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Jul 21 2011, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE
When it was time for my 2.0 to be rebuilt, Jake talked to my wife about a rebuild of my existing 2.0. The very next day I had a 3.2 on the way to my house...

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I'll have to use that strategy with my wife.
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:04 AM
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Whatever you run, it's a blasts as long as it runs well. I have driven "6" cars that were poorly assembled and poorly tuned... not fun.

From the point of view of someone that does NOT have the budget to do a proper "6" conversion..... I get much enjoyment from my 2.0(ish) motor.

Yes, it's not the power of a six, but I find the power, handling and exhaust sound appropriate for the car.

.... and my Weber 44's do sound like I'm going fast.... even though... you know

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It's all about the budget you have, right? 4... 6..... as long as it's a proper 914!
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post Jul 21 2011, 10:50 AM
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I loved my /4 and wish I had never sold it.

I like my 2.7L ... it has enough power to get in trouble.

Whatever turns your crank ....................
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